XYplorer Beta Club

I realize that we already have a partial ability to manage the Excluded Folders via Add/Remove/Chg, and keeping that would seem to be good idea for quicker access/reviewing...however, I'd also like to have that list via LM.

Because once you have more than about 4-5 entries, it's hard to work with in that small box...plus I'd like to sort them once in a while..

And I don't recall seeing a keyboard shortcut to LM...that's one that I think I'd definitely use...if any is available other than...something like: Cntl+Shift+Alt+down arrow+L+F6+right-click...or so it seems to be getting! (attempt at humor!)

j_c_hallgren wrote: And I don't recall seeing a keyboard shortcut to LM...that's one that I think I'd definitely use...if any is available other than...something like: Cntl+Shift+Alt+down arrow+L+F6+right-click...or so it seems to be getting! (attempt at humor!)

Yes there are shortcuts for every LM.

Alt+T+L+A for Address bar and goto
Alt+T+L+H for History
and more....
It works fine and shorter than the one you expected. .

(My attempt at humor. )

j_c_hallgren wrote:I realize that we already have a partial ability to manage the Excluded Folders via Add/Remove/Chg, and keeping that would seem to be good idea for quicker access/reviewing...however, I'd also like to have that list via LM.

No problem, you order, we serve! In the long run, the Excluded Folders list will have checkboxes (checked=excluded), and then we'll how we handle that in LM. It all will fall into places...

I like surrender's shortcuts! Good brain gym, as well...

surrender wrote:Yes there are shortcuts for every LM.

Alt+T+L+A for Address bar and goto
Alt+T+L+H for History
and more....
It works fine and shorter than the one you expected. .

(My attempt at humor. )

Hey I thougt, didn't think about the old Alt+xxx shortcuts at all...

...but then I tried and it doesn't seem to work.

With "Alt+T" I always end up at "Search Templates" (similar to "Ctrl+F9") and there the "L" has naturally a different function.

Is this a bug? (running version 4.50.0067)

Are you sure Alt+T shows search templates?? I thought it should go to Tools first. . I guess you mean Alt+T+T. Dont you??

I was pointing out that it sometimes seems that keyboard shortcuts are almost getting to point of being a combination of half-dozen keys!

Updated: Just tried the new beta...another FANTASTIC improvement!
Having the ability to review Exclusions while in Find mode is great!
And being able to jump directly to LM for it makes it even better!!

The only other thing we could do to exclusion that I see is already planned (correct?) is ability to turn on/off items on list for a particular run...

surrender wrote:Are you sure Alt+T shows search templates?? I thought it should go to Tools first. . I guess you mean Alt+T+T. Dont you??

Nope, just checked again "Alt+T" opens "Search templates" on my system (W2K), and I just figured, there are no chars underlined in all the submenus, which would take a lot of guessing doesn't it.

Donald, was it planned to work that way, anyway?

I also double checked on Alt+T...it's NOT listed in shortcuts but common usage would imply that it go to toolbar to the "T" option, which in XY would be Tools...so why go to Templates when there is Cntl+F9 for that??

RalphM wrote:

surrender wrote:Are you sure Alt+T shows search templates?? I thought it should go to Tools first. . I guess you mean Alt+T+T. Dont you??

Nope, just checked again "Alt+T" opens "Search templates" on my system (W2K), and I just figured, there are no chars underlined in all the submenus, which would take a lot of guessing doesn't it.

Donald, was it planned to work that way, anyway?

I use WinXP Home edition and for me Alt+T opens Tools and I do get the underlined characters (saves me the guesses). I think there is some way to enable/disable those things on windows. But definitely its got nothing to do with XYplorer, so change your settings and you can avail those shortcuts. .

I'm on W2K and one thing I noticed is that Alt followed by T gets Tools but Alt + T at same time gets Templates...however, Alt followed by V gets View as does Alt +V, so no difference...and others work same way (File, Edit, Help..) so I still think it's XY related

HAHA You are all crazy and blind .

(1) Alt+T is the shortcut for the "Templates" button below the find button!!
(2) Alt,T,T opens the templates via menu accelerators.
(3) Alt,T,L opens the list management via menu accelerators.

To see accelerators in the XP menu, press Alt and let go.

Oh I see. . Got it now... Alt+T shows templates for me too if I have my info panel open. else tools is opened.

j_c_hallgren wrote:.....common usage would imply that it go to toolbar to the "T" option, which in XY would be Tools...so why go to Templates when there is Cntl+F9 for that??

Didn't get answer to this...why are there TWO shortcuts that appear to do same function? If changed so that Alt+T would work same as Alt,T as other toolbar items do, would seem somewhat reasonable...

j_c_hallgren wrote:

j_c_hallgren wrote:.....common usage would imply that it go to toolbar to the "T" option, which in XY would be Tools...so why go to Templates when there is Cntl+F9 for that??

Didn't get answer to this...why are there TWO shortcuts that appear to do same function? If changed so that Alt+T would work same as Alt,T as other toolbar items do, would seem somewhat reasonable...

There's an Alt+Letter for (almost) each non-menu control.
There's an Alt-accelerator-path for each menu item.
There's additionally a Ctrl+[Shift]+key for the most important commands.

(Doing second post in case a reply to prior occurs while typing this)

Have not determined exact conditions but in some cases, clicking Alt toggles toolbar menu options via letter codes on and off and puts focus on FILE, but other times, it only underlines toolbar opts while Alt is held down and then the Alt+ codes don't work...