XYplorer Beta Club

Duplication of tabs in same file-pane: The Majority (I think 99%) doesn't need such duplication. Another matter to have the same tab in other file-pane.
Therefore I suggest to forbid by default opening duplicated tabs in the same file-pane.
For the remaining 1 percent of users (who need a duplicate) leave this opportunity through a check in the configuration.

Besides it would be desirable to have the context menu on a tab (better at a click on a folder/disk icon in tabs-header through Ctrl) for:
"close all tabs on this disk"
"close All tabs in this network location"
"close All network tabs"
"close All duplicate-tabs" (*in case when Duplication of tabs in same file-pane will remain)

When you open a new tab (Ctrl+T) it is born as a clone of the current tab. If duplicates are forbidden you could never open a new tab that way.

admin wrote:When you open a new tab (Ctrl+T) it is born as a clone of the current tab. If duplicates are forbidden you could never open a new tab that way.

I can not understand. Why do I need a clone of the current tab in the same file-pane? It is necessary to have possibility to open the duplicate in other file-pane. But in other file-pane it will be not duplicate tab.

Ask others. I think not majority but all will support this proposal based simply on their experience.
To close duplicates of tabs manually it it is very inconvenient. To try not to open the duplicates of tab - it it is even less convenient (for 2-3 hours of work you will forget all what you have opened. As a result it is necessary to close manually unnecessary duplicates).
Often much faster to find the correct folder in the tree, but after click opens not a tab that already exists, on the contrary - a duplicate of tab.

I still think that my proposal is not just a good but also necessary. To me for example duplicates of tabs is always incommode. If we compare with the Internet browser - there opening duplicates caused due to that the browser does not contain two file panes. And yet there is a possibility to close duplicate tabs through the context menu.

Finally, I did not propose to forbid only. I offered options.

DmFedorov wrote:

admin wrote:When you open a new tab (Ctrl+T) it is born as a clone of the current tab. If duplicates are forbidden you could never open a new tab that way.

I can not understand. Why do I need a clone of the current tab in the same file-pane?
Finally, I did not propose to forbid only. I offered options.

Ok, let me try and explain what makes the issue so different from a web browser:
A browser does NOT need to have a web address given to work, right? Because one can have their "home" defined as 'about:blank' but there is NO equivant option for a file manager...you must have a location defined for a new tab and if you're not going to give it a starting location, then the only real default avail is a clone of the current tab loc, ok? So Don is correct in that in order for Cntl+T to be able to open a new tab, a duplicate is needed since Cntl+T has no way to supply a different starting location...make sense?

Now for a way to possible address your issue: IF the Tabs panel on Config allowed you to specify a "startup path" as similar to "Startup & exit" so that any new tabs would always get a "C:\WINNT" or whatever and if there was already a tab open with that location, it would swap to that tab to avoid a duplicate being created, this could maybe help...I may have overlooked something here but it's an idea.

BTW, XY in the time I've used it has gotten SO complex that I can't keep track of all the options/tweaks, but I don't recall how one currently prevents a new tab opening when that desired location already is in one and could be reused.

j_c_hallgren wrote:Ok, let me try and explain what makes the issue so different from a web browser:
A browser does NOT need to have a web address given to work, right? Because one can have their "home" defined as 'about:blank' but there is NO equivant option for a file manager...you must have a location defined for a new tab and if you're not going to give it a starting location, then the only real default avail is a clone of the current tab loc, ok? So Don is correct in that in order for Cntl+T to be able to open a new tab, a duplicate is needed since Cntl+T has no way to supply a different starting location...make sense?

Now for a way to possible address your issue: IF the Tabs panel on Config allowed you to specify a "startup path" as similar to "Startup & exit" so that any new tabs would always get a "C:\WINNT" or whatever and if there was already a tab open with that location, it would swap to that tab to avoid a duplicate being created, this could maybe help...I may have overlooked something here but it's an idea.

Above described logic is to me too complex and lead to nowhere. I do not understand it.

I know that when I do click on the folder, then while moving the mouse up command is executed and selected address is opened in active tab.
If the action of a click will first search the list of open tabs, and only then (depending on the search result) command execution, then by negative result of search (no duplicate) the folder opens in the active tab. With a positive result (a duplicate) - will be activated already available tab that was found during the search.
About the context menus - there too should not be super complexities.

DmFedorov wrote:Above described logic is to me too complex and lead to nowhere. I do not understand it.

I am presuming that English is not your normal language and so if you had problems understanding my comments, I likewise have had trouble following your postings but have tried my best...and what I described is actually quite simple and primitive compared to some of the conversation that occurs here so I'd maybe suggest you try and use this to help you better learn English as well as XY because both are quite complex.

Making the new tab a clone of the current is the fastest way. It's even faster than opening an empty tab because the list does not have to be changed at all. Once the tab is opened you can change the location. Apart from that there are many ways to open a new tab at a specified location in one go.

Apart from that there are good reasons to allow duplicate locations in one pane. Tabs can differ in sort order, scroll position, list view, visual filter, and list styles. For me it is often useful to have the same location in different display formats.

BTW, I like the additional Close commands, but the menu is already very long. I suggest you write scripts instead for these functionalities.

j_c_hallgren wrote:I am presuming that English is not your normal language and so if you had problems understanding my comments, I likewise have had trouble following your postings but have tried my best...and what I described is actually quite simple and primitive compared to some of the conversation that occurs here so I'd maybe suggest you try and use this to help you better learn English as well as XY because both are quite complex.

You are right, English is not my native language.
But the problem was simply in that that I not knew how in generally the new tab opens, that it opens as duplicate of tab as a clone of a current tab and only then tab changes the address. After clarification of Don I have understood your explanation too.
Thank you

admin wrote:For me it is often useful to have the same location in different display formats.

Yes. It is a sufficient reason for opening duplicate of tab in the same file-pane.

I suggest you write scripts instead for these functionalities.

Thank you. I'll try. But I'm not so sure that I am really ready to write such scripts.

DmFedorov wrote:

admin wrote:For me it is often useful to have the same location in different display formats.

Yes. It is a sufficient reason for opening duplicate of tab in the same file-pane.

I suggest you write scripts instead for these functionalities.

Thank you. I'll try. But I'm not so sure that I am really ready to write such scripts.

Somebody here will surely help. Actually I think it might be a bit difficult withe the current scripting commands. If any commands or parameters are missing let me know and I'll add them.