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Auto-organize?
Posted: 08 Oct 2010 18:32
by serendipity
OK, XY is great to organize files around and I won't mention whole bunch of features that make my disk so neat and clean.
But what about auto-organize?
Say, I am given this PC at work on first day of work or simply that over time I have not organized my stuff but now i need to. Either way, I have to organize my files quickly.
I could do it manually, by applying filter for each file type and folderize them one by one.
But with auto-organize i could set some simple rules and XY would go over my files and nicely folderize them in their respective file types. Ofcourse by default this should never work on system files, which would be a disaster.
Actually, I am looking at an old disk i attached to my PC right now, which has so much content spread across the disk that it would take me a day to actually sort through it and organize everything.
I am aware that, there is never an easy way to organize things the way you want and it could sometimes do more harm to do this than doing it manually (something like how iTunes auto manages folders and messes with your music folders). All, i am saying that we could discuss some simple way (filetype to start with) to quickly organize stuff without much of searching, dragging, dropping etc. Also, this would be a good way to find duplicates which we all have spread across several disks.
Just a thought.
Re: Auto-organize?
Posted: 08 Oct 2010 19:07
by admin
Thrilling thought! Do you have a vision of how such rules could look like?
Re: Auto-organize?
Posted: 08 Oct 2010 21:07
by SkyFrontier
This may give some ideas...
File Classifier (external link).
Re: Auto-organize?
Posted: 09 Oct 2010 01:03
by tomuser
finding duplicates is possible only comparing file hashes, md5 or sha for example (but certainly not CRC which isn't reliable).
Re: Auto-organize?
Posted: 09 Oct 2010 01:22
by nas8e9
tomuser wrote:finding duplicates is possible only comparing file hashes, md5 or sha for example (but certainly not CRC which isn't reliable).
As for hashing functionality, verification of file operations by way of hashing was to be part of XYcopy 2.0. Last I read, that's scheduled for either late this year or early next. Separate from auto-organise, finding duplicates might be a nice function to have.
Re: Auto-organize?
Posted: 09 Oct 2010 16:59
by serendipity
admin wrote:Thrilling thought! Do you have a vision of how such rules could look like?
Well, at least for me, when i am searching for something, i already know what kind of file it is. So to start with file type would be the most useful.
By default all this should be not be applied to any folders already created by user, only loose files.
So, if I have an unorganized folder named, D:\work files containing my presentation, spread sheets, documents, demo videos, text files etc, XY would go into that folder and put different file types into their respective folders. That way my folder looks neat and I can quickly find my stuff.
User configurable settings for this:
1) Define a number beyond which a folder is defined as unorganized.
2) Which file types to folderize.
3) Which file types to ignore.
Personally, I would find it more tedious to find my stuff if XY organized my files by date or size, because usually i dig down my files starting with "What" rather "When" or "How much". I know I should look for a spoon in https://www.xyplorer.com, not bathroom. So can XY put https://www.xyplorer.com in https://www.xyplorer.com?
Re: Auto-organize?
Posted: 10 Oct 2010 00:27
by arirish
serendipity wrote:I know I should look for a spoon in https://www.xyplorer.com, not bathroom. So can XY put https://www.xyplorer.com in https://www.xyplorer.com?
Today, making coffee.
Tomorrow, organising your https://www.xyplorer.com.
Next Thursday... I dread to think.
Re: Auto-organize?
Posted: 10 Oct 2010 01:41
by j_c_hallgren
tomuser wrote:finding duplicates is possible only comparing file hashes, md5 or sha for example (but certainly not CRC which isn't reliable).
Exact duplicates would require that but I sometimes have things which are duplicates for me yet aren't 100% indentical other than maybe name excluding extension...such as: a JPG and BMP of same name...or two TXT files that have same name but slightly differing contents (such as a blank line removed from one)...and locating the files that have these situations can be quite difficult.
Re: Auto-organize?
Posted: 10 Oct 2010 01:56
by nas8e9
j_c_hallgren wrote:tomuser wrote:finding duplicates is possible only comparing file hashes, md5 or sha for example (but certainly not CRC which isn't reliable).
Exact duplicates would require that but I sometimes have things which are duplicates for me yet aren't 100% indentical other than maybe name excluding extension...such as: a JPG and BMP of same name...or two TXT files that have same name but slightly differing contents (such as a blank line removed from one)...and locating the files that have these situations can be quite difficult.
I see other applications offering:
1. filename only;
2. filename and size;
3. checksum.
Perhaps offering 1 and 2 with and without the extension taken into consideration, would be an idea? Of course, the roadmap doesn't list anything in the way of file deduplication at the moment...
Re: Auto-organize?
Posted: 21 Apr 2011 18:14
by tiago
Last night I wrote a script which auto-sorts "x" files inside numbered folders, marking a folder if the size of contents exceeds a given amount, then I realized anyone else could have had a better script available. So far I found a request to which my script meets partially the OT and this very topic. Since Don found the idea "thrilling", I'm wondering if there's room to expect this to be implemented soon?
edit: the request can be found here:
http://www.xyplorer.com/xyfc/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=5976, my script fits the "-sort them into packs of 500 files" part and I probably will work this holiday in a way to gather files and folders up to a given limit then moving them into a numbered folder. But my vote goes for an app-driven solution.