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Association Question
Posted: 17 Aug 2010 18:03
by JDługosz
On regular XP Explorer (64-bit), there is a context menu item for just about every file to open in Notepad++.
This is missing in XYplorer. I found it on the "open with..." context menu item a few times, but then I tried to look at a file (.git\config) that has no extension. It has a useless "open" and no "open with".
What is a good way to provide for this in XYPlorer: Make "open in Notepad++" available for every file? I don't mind it being present for totally non-appropriate files, but it would be cool if certain extensions could be excluded too. Or, exclude if other extensions already claimed it; e.g. if 7-zip added its context item, then it's not a text file!
Re: Association Question
Posted: 17 Aug 2010 18:43
by zer0
Context menus are typically created when executables add special entries to the registry. XYplorer does not have an ability to add/remove those entries -- such functionality is governed by respective applications. XYplorer simply provides context menus that it is able to "see". If there is a context menu that you do not see in XYplorer (but do in Windows Explorer) then it's likely to do with XYplorer being a 32-bit application.
Re: Association Question
Posted: 17 Aug 2010 18:56
by JDługosz
But there is a "portable file association" feature, and I'm thinking the context menu in XYplorer can be customized in its own way for use only within XYplorer.
I see a help topic on "POM", in particular. However, extension-less files would seem to be a problem. And, I wonder if more advanced filtering can be used to, say, reasonably identify files that are not binary files.
Re: Association Question
Posted: 17 Aug 2010 19:08
by zer0
JDługosz wrote:But there is a "portable file association" feature, and I'm thinking the context menu in XYplorer can be customized in its own way for use only within XYplorer.
PFAs are quite different to items in the context menu. The concepts appear similar, but context menu entries are deployed by other applications and that data is stored in the registry. If a 32-bit application installs such an entry then you'll see it in the context menu. Simples
Re: Association Question
Posted: 17 Aug 2010 19:15
by SkyFrontier
I use this as a workaround for similar situations:
Open With/Associate...
...at least it's fast enough to change system associations on the fly...
Re: Association Question
Posted: 17 Aug 2010 19:25
by serendipity
JDługosz wrote:But there is a "portable file association" feature, and I'm thinking the context menu in XYplorer can be customized in its own way for use only within XYplorer.
I see a help topic on "POM", in particular. However, extension-less files would seem to be a problem. And, I wonder if more advanced filtering can be used to, say, reasonably identify files that are not binary files.
By all means use Portable File Associations (PFA), but it wont appear in right-click context menu (this feature might change with
Custom Event Actions (CEA)). It will appear with ctrl+alt+Enter (you can change it to your liking):
In your case add something like this to Customize file associations:
Code: Select all
|"Open with Notepad++" *>::openwith "path to Notepad++.exe file";
Re: Association Question
Posted: 17 Aug 2010 20:16
by JDługosz
I'm confused. Portable Association and Open Menu don't show up on the context menu? Then what's the point?
I'll just have to wait 'till I have have a chance to read through the docs some more. The description sounded like XY's own (rational) way of storing that kind of stuff, but did the same thing open-commands and open-with on the context menu.
Re: Association Question
Posted: 17 Aug 2010 20:44
by serendipity
JDługosz wrote:I'm confused. Portable Association and Open Menu don't show up on the context menu? Then what's the point?
I'll just have to wait 'till I have have a chance to read through the docs some more. The description sounded like XY's own (rational) way of storing that kind of stuff, but did the same thing open-commands and open-with on the context menu.
That's why i said:
... it wont appear in right-click context menu. It will appear with ctrl+alt+Enter
Re: Association Question
Posted: 01 Oct 2010 08:58
by tomuser
serendipity wrote:That's why i said:
... it wont appear in right-click context menu. It will appear with ctrl+alt+Enter
Then we should request it to appear in right-click menu. I find it being essential. Using ctrl+alt+Enter forces to leave mouse for a while to press all these keys together. Of cource it's possible to select file then move to XYplorer toolbars selecting PAF button and select program from there but it is too much movement to be made. Especially when file list is long, files itself to check are on bottom of screen and having good resolution monitors (1920x1200).
Re: Association Question
Posted: 01 Oct 2010 09:31
by admin
tomuser wrote:serendipity wrote:That's why i said:
... it wont appear in right-click context menu. It will appear with ctrl+alt+Enter
Then we should request it to appear in right-click menu. I find it being essential. Using ctrl+alt+Enter forces to leave mouse for a while to press all these keys together. Of cource it's possible to select file then move to XYplorer toolbars selecting PAF button and select program from there but it is too much movement to be made. Especially when file list is long, files itself to check are on bottom of screen and having good resolution monitors (1920x1200).
I cannot add the Open With menu as a submenu here for techno-logistical reaons
-- but I could add and item "Open With..." which then opens the POM. Would that work?
Re: Association Question
Posted: 01 Oct 2010 09:39
by tomuser
Worth to try, better than nothing : )
Re: Association Question
Posted: 01 Oct 2010 10:57
by admin
tomuser wrote:Worth to try, better than nothing : )
Next beta...
Re: Association Question
Posted: 01 Oct 2010 16:50
by SkyFrontier
@Don:
Can the same approach be applied to the Custom Drag'n'Drop menu? That way
several problems could be solved/
minimized at once.
-then, is it possible to allow rearrange items' order in the menu? (Valid both for "Custom items in shell context menu" and "Custom Drag'n'Drop menu")
Thanks!
Re: Association Question
Posted: 01 Oct 2010 17:06
by admin
SkyFrontier wrote:@Don:
Can the same approach be applied to the Custom Drag'n'Drop menu? That way
several problems could be solved/
minimized at once.
-then, is it possible to allow rearrange items' order in the menu? (Valid both for "Custom items in shell context menu" and "Custom Drag'n'Drop menu")
Thanks!
What problems? (sorry, but I have no time to read through long threads searching for "several problems")
Re: Association Question
Posted: 01 Oct 2010 17:32
by SkyFrontier
Admin:
What problems? (sorry, but I have no time to read through long threads searching for "several problems")
-you guys think I put those blue colors on my texts because I like the color???
I've searched for the briefest description available for and LINKED to them!
-isn't that helping?