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Posted: **09 Aug 2010 14:39**

v9.40.0002 - 2010-08-05 20:12
    * List: Now when changing the sort order and there are no selections
      the list is auto-scrolled to top and the top item is auto-focused
      -- regardless of the setting of Configuration | General | Keep
      focused item in view after sorting. IMO a small change with a big
      usability gain

It sounds great - and sometimes it's useful - but being not an option is turning my files management experience a little nightmare, since I easily have +500 on folders and switching from NAME to DATE sorting (which I do quite often in order to sort stuff out) and each and every move I do I have to scroll all the way down again and again. But please note: I'd like to have it ON or OFF, because it really make things a bit faster in a certain scenario.
Thank you!

Posted: **09 Aug 2010 16:59**

I understand what you mean. I'm unsure myself whether this really should be the default. WE XP does not scroll to top. WE Vista/7 I don't know at the moment. Hmmm...

In the meantime: Try to hold CTRL. Better?

Posted: **09 Aug 2010 17:29**

Yeah, CTRL controls the beast, for sure!

Thanks for the (undocumented?) tip.
Being able to use CTRL to activate the new function would be better, IMHO, since my workflow (WE default's, not that I use it much...) requires few use out of the recent improvement.

Posted: **09 Aug 2010 17:50**

Just tested WE Win7: it does scroll to top always after re-sorting.

And any selections are removed.

And (apparently) a random item is focused.

Wow, so much for usability of Win7. I guess there is a setting somewhere to turn this madness off? Anyway, this is the factory default, so XY is doing not that bad currently (taking from Win7 what's at least useful for some users).

Posted: **09 Aug 2010 18:03**

Don:

Just tested WE Win7: it does scroll to top always after re-sorting. And any selections are removed. And (apparently) a random item is focused. Wow, so much for usability of Win7. I guess there is a setting somewhere to turn this madness off? Anyway, this is the factory default, so XY is doing not that bad currently (taking from Win7 what's at least useful for some users).

Well.
This is exactly how I feel when I have to struggle with Sticky Selection current (well, since it's among us, in fact...) behavior...
Sorry to say that, Don, but auto-selecting random files among a picky selection (that's what's Sticky Selection is all about!) which lately will be moved/copied/backup-ed sounds a crazy thing to me, too... Another 2 cents...

Posted: **09 Aug 2010 18:05**

admin wrote:Just tested WE Win7: it does scroll to top always after re-sorting. And any selections are removed. And (apparently) a random item is focused. Wow, so much for usability of Win7. I guess there is a setting somewhere to turn this madness off? Anyway, this is the factory default, so XY is doing not that bad currently (taking from Win7 what's at least useful for some users).

I cannot confirm this behaviour. If no item is selected -- you cannot have a non-selected focused item Explorer in Win 7 -- the list does scroll to the top upon re-sorting. However, if an item is selected and a re-sort is invoked, that item always stays selected and in view. Also, depending on the position of a selected item, the list does not always scroll to the top on re-sort.

Posted: **09 Aug 2010 18:08**

Posted: **09 Aug 2010 18:18**

zer0 wrote:
admin wrote:Just tested WE Win7: it does scroll to top always after re-sorting. And any selections are removed. And (apparently) a random item is focused. Wow, so much for usability of Win7. I guess there is a setting somewhere to turn this madness off? Anyway, this is the factory default, so XY is doing not that bad currently (taking from Win7 what's at least useful for some users).
I cannot confirm this behaviour. If no item is selected -- you cannot have a non-selected focused item Explorer in Win 7 -- the list does scroll to the top upon re-sorting. However, if an item is selected and a re-sort is invoked, that item always stays selected and in view. Also, depending on the position of a selected item, the list does not always scroll to the top on re-sort.

You can: Ctrl+Click on a selected item will produce a non-selected focused item. If you now resort the list a random item is focused. Reproducible at will.

Posted: **10 Aug 2010 09:20**

admin wrote:You can: Ctrl+Click on a selected item will produce a non-selected focused item. If you now resort the list a random item is focused. Reproducible at will.

OK, my bad, I did not know of this functionality. I will try to determine whether it is *really* random

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