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Special Folders: Could users select either seq or inclusion
Posted: 16 Jan 2006 23:33
by j_c_hallgren
Yes, it's me again...the newest "PITA" (
)
...but ran into this situation: Having the "Special Folders" is quite handy ...BUT...a few of those listed are NOT special to me...and get in the way...as "My Computer" and "Desktop" are just about always visible to me since I tend to always have tree shown...
thus, IF one could re-arrange the seq of "SF" so the ones I use most like System or Temp could be at top, that would be an aid...maybe like one can re-seq shortcuts/lists of pgms within WIN Start? That'd work...plus ability to add/del would help also.
Yes, I could make them as Favorites but I'm reserving that for data or non-sys folders...
Just another thought to consider IF you're thinking of what to do next to make it even better. If it doesn't happen, I won't mind...XY still outshines the alternatives!
Re: Special Folders: Could users select either seq or inclus
Posted: 17 Jan 2006 10:39
by admin
Hey, you are right! "My Computer", "Desktop", "My Documents" are just superfluous here. I'll remove them...
Re: Special Folders: Could users select either seq or inclus
Posted: 17 Jan 2006 15:41
by jacky
admin wrote:Hey, you are right! "My Computer", "Desktop", "My Documents" are just superfluous here. I'll remove them...
damn!
Well I for one would disagree, as I quite often use "My Computer"
Sure it's on the tree, just like everything else, but when I need to go there quickly it's so much easier to right-click/My Computer
Bah, already gone uh.. well thank God I can make it a favorite folder (btw, i can do that but it doesn't have the "Mark" submenu on its context menu).
And a bit off-topic (and dupe
), but I think the "Toggle favorite file" menuitem would make more sense on context-menu (like under Rename Special) than on the ctxt menu on a blank zone of the treeview (which is very unnatural for the toggle option).
Re: Special Folders: Could users select either seq or inclus
Posted: 17 Jan 2006 15:47
by admin
jacky wrote:admin wrote:Hey, you are right! "My Computer", "Desktop", "My Documents" are just superfluous here. I'll remove them...
damn!
Well I for one would disagree, as I quite often use "My Computer"
Sure it's on the tree, just like everything else, but when I need to go there quickly it's so much easier to right-click/My Computer
You find that easy??? Just click the Home key, that's easy.
jacky wrote:And a bit off-topic (and dupe
), but I think the "Toggle favorite file" menuitem would make more sense on context-menu (like under Rename Special) than on the ctxt menu on a blank zone of the treeview (which is very unnatural for the toggle option).
It's there, under Mark > ...
Re: Special Folders: Could users select either seq or inclus
Posted: 17 Jan 2006 18:07
by jacky
admin wrote:You find that easy??? Just click the Home key, that's easy.
Yes I do
Especially cause I usually right-click to get my fav folders list, so having MyC. there is easy to me, as I mostly move using either the scroll or that feature so....
And the Home key only works if the tree has focus, which ain't the case most of the time for me; besides as stated before I like it better as a mouse action.
admin wrote:jacky wrote:And a bit off-topic (and dupe
), but I think the "Toggle favorite file" menuitem would make more sense on context-menu (like under Rename Special) than on the ctxt menu on a blank zone of the treeview (which is very unnatural for the toggle option).
It's there, under Mark > ...
Nope, there is no mark on the ctxt menu of a
file ! I meant to toggle the favorite file, right-now we have to select the file, and then right-click on an empty zone in the
treeview 
Which is very unnatural I think. The list of fav files have to be there, but the toggle option whould be on the ctxt menu on a file
BTW, the "Mark" submenu is missing for "My Computer"
Re: Special Folders: Could users select either seq or inclus
Posted: 17 Jan 2006 18:21
by admin
jacky wrote:admin wrote:You find that easy??? Just click the Home key, that's easy.
Yes I do
Especially cause I usually right-click to get my fav folders list, so having MyC. there is easy to me, as I mostly move using either the scroll or that feature so....
And the Home key only works if the tree has focus, which ain't the case most of the time for me; besides as stated before I like it better as a mouse action.
Hm hm. Ok, I think i was a bit too fast here. What j_c_hallgren wanted (configurable list) is not going to be (no time
), so I rewind it to the previuos state, and j_c_hallgren has to live with a somewhat longer menu -- no big deal, is it?
admin wrote:jacky wrote:And a bit off-topic (and dupe
), but I think the "Toggle favorite file" menuitem would make more sense on context-menu (like under Rename Special) than on the ctxt menu on a blank zone of the treeview (which is very unnatural for the toggle option).
It's there, under Mark > ...
Nope, there is no mark on the ctxt menu of a
file ! I meant to toggle the favorite file, right-now we have to select the file, and then right-click on an empty zone in the
treeview Which is very unnatural I think. The list of fav files have to be there, but the toggle option whould be on the ctxt menu on a file
BTW, the "Mark" submenu is missing for "My Computer"[/quote]
Ok, if you find a better name for "Move/Copy/Backup To" I'll put your "Toggle favorite file" there and throw in a "Run with parameters..."
"Mark" submenu is missing: I'll see if I can find it somewhere.
Re: Special Folders: Could users select either seq or inclus
Posted: 17 Jan 2006 20:32
by jacky
admin wrote:Ok, if you find a better name for "Move/Copy/Backup To" I'll put your "Toggle favorite file" there and throw in a "Run with parameters..."
hmm... better I could come up with right now would be
Code: Select all
File Operations
Copy To >
Move To >
Backup To >
Run with parameters...
-
Toggle favorite file
Posted: 17 Jan 2006 22:28
by j_c_hallgren
Sometimes you're just a bit too quick to update XY!
I was kinda throwing the idea out and seeing what others thought..
And suggesting a method that would work for all but having NO idea of what time/coding it would take...and that's perfectly fine if you're busy.
Obviously, we all use the product differently so maybe using this forum to get a better consensus of your current power users before change (unless it's a brand new feature) might be prudent.
I certainly DON'T want to muck up other users! Just making a few suggestions based on my experience..
FYI: Any feature/option that relies on RIGHT-click is definitely a bit more difficult to use when using a touch-pad as I do 99.9%...I can tap it to left click, but right-click requires a key in most cases...just a thing to consider.
Posted: 18 Jan 2006 11:07
by admin
j_c_hallgren wrote:Sometimes you're just a bit too quick to update XY!
...
No problem. I always try to consider all pros and cons before I change something:
(a) Do I like it?
(b) Do the most qualified users like it?
(c) Do the majority of all users like it?
Usually I find the right decisions, but it happened before that I changed my mind.
j_c_hallgren wrote:FYI: Any feature/option that relies on RIGHT-click is definitely a bit more difficult to use when using a touch-pad as I do 99.9%...I can tap it to left click, but right-click requires a key in most cases...just a thing to consider.
Yes, I'm aware of it. But there should be a context menu key on every keyboard...
Posted: 18 Jan 2006 16:26
by j_c_hallgren
Re: Context Menu key -> I'm not aware of any specific key that does that on mine...I do have a set of "mouse buttons" below my touchpad, but I try to avoid using them when possible, as I then have to move my finger off the pad area...
What this DID cause me to do was check my TP config
, and set-up a zone in upper left that simulates the Right-click...I'd forgotten about that on this laptop
...had it somewhat diff on old one...THANKS for the nudge!
Posted: 18 Jan 2006 17:09
by admin
j_c_hallgren wrote:Re: Context Menu key -> I'm not aware of any specific key that does that on mine...
I have that key below the right shift button.
Posted: 18 Jan 2006 17:26
by j_c_hallgren
OH! THAT one! Given that I've spent most (99.9%+) of last 4+ yrs on a Dell laptop keyboard, and they have less keys than regular, I'd totally forgotten about THAT key!
I had to look at my old desktop keyboard to see it...
I only use a keyboard at library or when at friends house...so us laptop-er's are "key challenged", I guess one could say...
Anyway, now that I can tap upper left corner of TP to simulate it, it'll help a bit...however, I have to have cursor on the item/file to be acted on, so it's not quite the same as KB.
Re: Special Folders: Could users select either seq or inclus
Posted: 18 Jan 2006 22:40
by admin
jacky wrote:
hmm... better I could come up with right now would be
Code: Select all
File Operations
Copy To >
Move To >
Backup To >
Run with parameters...
-
Toggle favorite file
hey, "File Operations" was my first idea
:
http://www.xyplorer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3797#3797
Nothing better out there?
Re: Special Folders: Could users select either seq or inclus
Posted: 19 Jan 2006 17:55
by jacky
admin wrote:Nothing better out there?
Actually, I think you should not change anything in the Copy/Move/Backup To menu, and not add the new entries there either.
Because the two new ones, run w/ params & toggle fav file, are for
files only, while the Copy/etc is for both
files & folders
So I think you should add thoose as new items only on the context menu of a file.
Re: Special Folders: Could users select either seq or inclus
Posted: 19 Jan 2006 19:08
by admin
jacky wrote:admin wrote:Nothing better out there?
Actually, I think you should not change anything in the Copy/Move/Backup To menu, and not add the new entries there either.
Because the two new ones, run w/ params & toggle fav file, are for
files only, while the Copy/etc is for both
files & folders
So I think you should add thoose as new items only on the context menu of a file.
Yes.... my main concern here is space rather than semantics. The context menu should not get too high. Maybe
one other submenu item would fit, and it should contain whatever commands the future will bring. So it should be a match-all category like "Miscellaneous", "Other", "More", "Advanced"...