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Portable installers are "tarbombs"
Posted: 21 May 2010 22:25
by CrouZ
Please put the portable installers so that they end up in a separate folder when you unzip/unrar them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarbomb#Tarbomb
Re: Portable installers are "tarbombs"
Posted: 22 May 2010 09:50
by admin
I personally dislike installers that force a subfolder on me. But I'm open for discussion...
Re: Portable installers are "tarbombs"
Posted: 22 May 2010 13:28
by Pagat
i'm with Don here. I also hate zip files that extract the (actual) content into a subfolder.
Re: Portable installers are "tarbombs"
Posted: 22 May 2010 15:59
by Muroph
Pagat wrote:i'm with Don here. I also hate zip files that extract the (actual) content into a subfolder.
+1
you can very easily extract a "tarbomb" to a subfolder by using the command "extract to <foldername>" in the context menu.
its right below "extract here", less than 20px of mouse movement.

Re: Portable installers are "tarbombs"
Posted: 22 May 2010 17:17
by zer0
I would like for the portable version to extract into a separate folder, but if that's not something that's included one can use aforementioned context menu and scripting.
Re: Portable installers are "tarbombs"
Posted: 25 May 2010 10:12
by vegard
My cousin likes the scratching, hissing, and popping sounds that old cassettes and records make.
She claims it makes the sound "warmer", I claim she is retarded.
Please don't tarbomb.
Re: Portable installers are "tarbombs"
Posted: 25 May 2010 11:32
by PeterH
Maybe here is a difference in expectations between tar-users and users of other compression tools?
I - as a zip-user

- always extract archives to where I expect the contents to be. And would not like it to create an own subdirectory.
While the refered wiki explains just other expectations for tar...
Re: Portable installers are "tarbombs"
Posted: 25 May 2010 12:26
by TheQwerty
PeterH wrote:I - as a zip-user

- always extract archives to where I expect the contents to be. And would not like it to create an own subdirectory.
Exactly how I feel on this. They both have their own pros and cons.
Changing it now will also break a few of my scripts and jacky's updater, which I don't look forward to be that the case.

Re: Portable installers are "tarbombs"
Posted: 25 May 2010 15:15
by j_c_hallgren
TheQwerty wrote:PeterH wrote:I - as a zip-user

- always extract archives to where I expect the contents to be. And would not like it to create an own subdirectory.
Exactly how I feel on this. They both have their own pros and cons.
Same for me...I hate it when a zip decides it wants to create a folder by itself...so I definitely prefer the way it is now...howver, maybe the RAR version could be setup differently as we mostly all use the ZIP one?
Re: Portable installers are "tarbombs"
Posted: 25 May 2010 16:27
by zer0
Pretty much everyone (myself included) seems to say that what they like or don't like, but not why that is. Personally, I feel that it is good for testing if each beta is in a separate folder as it allows simultaneous testing of several versions without configuration files overwriting each other. In addition, for DnD usability, a one-folder approach is better. That said, I respect people's preferences in this area -- we're all different
And -- while we're at it -- I would like if we can download the installers directly instead of having to extract them from Zip archives. I understand that some people may have issues with downloading EXEs (workplace restrictions, etc), in which case Zip option should be offered in parallel. "More work for Don" could be a deterrent, but if it is, why is the non-beta portable package also available as a RAR?
Re: Portable installers are "tarbombs"
Posted: 25 May 2010 16:34
by admin
@all:
Please stop wasting your time on this topic. I won't change the packages anytime soon.
Thanks.
Don
Re: Portable installers are "tarbombs"
Posted: 10 Jun 2010 13:43
by CrouZ
I believe that practically all linux users agree that tarbombing is a bad idea.
Since I also use linux a lot I usually just assume that it isn't.
There is a large inconsistency among zip archives in Windows meaning that you have to open an archive to check if it is a tarbomb, in my opinion you shouldn't have to do this.
Re: Portable installers are "tarbombs"
Posted: 10 Jun 2010 14:06
by admin
CrouZ wrote:There is a large inconsistency among zip archives in Windows meaning that you have to open an archive to check if it is a tarbomb, in my opinion you shouldn't have to do this.
Agreed, that's a problem. But I don't see a solution for this from here. And the better strategy IMO is not to include any subfolders and leave it to the user whether to extract to "here" or to a subfolder (via context menu). The other way would be a "sub-bomb".
Re: Portable installers are "tarbombs"
Posted: 12 Jun 2010 17:58
by vegard
admin wrote:The other way would be a "sub-bomb".
"Sub-bomb"?
You mean in case anybody else has written a program called xyplorer_full?
Re: Portable installers are "tarbombs"
Posted: 12 Jun 2010 18:54
by ramza__x
Sadly, learn the basic before you complain... get familiar with archive tools!

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