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Change timestamp of a file?

Posted: 16 Mar 2010 15:13
by TsunamiZ
Anyone know if there is a way to change the timestamp of a file through the XY interface [without using scripting]?

Re: Change timestamp of a file?

Posted: 16 Mar 2010 15:18
by zer0
Sure. Select a file, turn on Info Panel and mouseover the dates for created/modified/etc ;)

Re: Change timestamp of a file?

Posted: 16 Mar 2010 15:21
by j_c_hallgren
TsunamiZ wrote:Anyone know if there is a way to change the timestamp of a file through the XY interface [without using scripting]?
:? You mean other than http://88.191.26.34/XYwiki/index.php/In ... e-stamping?
You're a veteran here so I'm a bit puzzled by this query...

Re: Change timestamp of a file?

Posted: 16 Mar 2010 15:38
by TsunamiZ
thanks :)

Re: Change timestamp of a file?

Posted: 16 Mar 2010 15:47
by admin
j_c_hallgren wrote:
TsunamiZ wrote:Anyone know if there is a way to change the timestamp of a file through the XY interface [without using scripting]?
:? You mean other than http://88.191.26.34/XYwiki/index.php/In ... e-stamping?
You're a veteran here so I'm a bit puzzled by this query...
Not a veteran, rather a sleeper. But recently he got very awake... reminds me to the story of Godzilla... :wink:

Re: Change timestamp of a file?

Posted: 16 Mar 2010 15:49
by PeterH
I must say, I had the same problem long ago.

Seems the problem is, that these fields don't look as if they can be changed - until you click them. So if you don't know - you will not try.
Maybe they should initially have a white background or so?

Re: Change timestamp of a file?

Posted: 16 Mar 2010 15:55
by admin
PeterH wrote:I must say, I had the same problem long ago.

Seems the problem is, that these fields don't look as if they can be changed - until you click them. So if you don't know - you will not try.
Maybe they should initially have a white background or so?
I know it's prehistoric. This feature is almost older than the whole app. Want to improve it since long. But prio was always too low.

Re: Change timestamp of a file?

Posted: 16 Mar 2010 16:05
by j_c_hallgren
PeterH wrote:I must say, I had the same problem long ago.

Seems the problem is, that these fields don't look as if they can be changed - until you click them. So if you don't know - you will not try.
Maybe they should initially have a white background or so?
Yes, this (or something similar) could definitely help! And it's a query that occurs here somewhat on regular basis, because it's not really obvious at all that these fields can be changed...unless you've read some documentation...oh, and I think I may have had same issue myself way back when.. :oops:

Another idea would be to have some icon thing (like the checkmark/X) appear when not in modify mode that would/could be used to invoke modify (either in addition or in place of clicking on timestamp)?
Even something simple like a "+" or such?

Re: Change timestamp of a file?

Posted: 16 Mar 2010 21:43
by TsunamiZ
maybe have a pencil icon next to them that can also be clicked to edit. and the other 2 icons can be grayed out until when in edit mode.

Re: Change timestamp of a file?

Posted: 16 Mar 2010 22:01
by admin
TsunamiZ wrote:maybe have a pencil icon next to them that can also be clicked to edit. and the other 2 icons can be grayed out until when in edit mode.
Yes, that would be a good solution. But you know, for everybody who knows how it goes it would disturb the GUI with redundant information. I'm fine with keeping this bit to be "discovered".

Re: Change timestamp of a file?

Posted: 16 Mar 2010 23:31
by j_c_hallgren
admin wrote:
TsunamiZ wrote:maybe have a pencil icon next to them that can also be clicked to edit. and the other 2 icons can be grayed out until when in edit mode.
Yes, that would be a good solution. But you know, for everybody who knows how it goes it would disturb the GUI with redundant information. I'm fine with keeping this bit to be "discovered".
I think having to "discover" this to be a bad idea...sorry! Having had to answer this question repeatly over the years, adding a small 'pencil' icon that would change to the other two when in edit mode seems a good way to handle it...this icon wouldn't be that large and should help greatly...one could still click on field as before but having a pencil to click on as alternative would be good.

And I'm not saying that the checkbox/X should be grayed, but be only in edit as now with the pencil when not in edit.

Re: Change timestamp of a file?

Posted: 17 Mar 2010 08:41
by admin
j_c_hallgren wrote:
admin wrote:
TsunamiZ wrote:maybe have a pencil icon next to them that can also be clicked to edit. and the other 2 icons can be grayed out until when in edit mode.
Yes, that would be a good solution. But you know, for everybody who knows how it goes it would disturb the GUI with redundant information. I'm fine with keeping this bit to be "discovered".
I think having to "discover" this to be a bad idea...sorry! Having had to answer this question repeatly over the years, adding a small 'pencil' icon that would change to the other two when in edit mode seems a good way to handle it...this icon wouldn't be that large and should help greatly...one could still click on field as before but having a pencil to click on as alternative would be good.

And I'm not saying that the checkbox/X should be grayed, but be only in edit as now with the pencil when not in edit.
My (lo prio) plan is rather to add a separate modal interface for timestamping and remove it completely from the Properties panel.

Re: Change timestamp of a file?

Posted: 17 Mar 2010 11:39
by TsunamiZ
but the current implementation seems pretty simple and easy to use. its just not obvious to notice by new users. even if you were to add a new modal interface for timestamping, it might be good to still keep the properties feature of doing it for choice. perhaps also make it hotkey-able in the menu. :)

Re: Change timestamp of a file?

Posted: 18 Mar 2010 14:49
by eurytos
wow!

I never knew you could click on the dates to change them. :D

Re: Change timestamp of a file?

Posted: 18 Mar 2010 23:11
by PeterH
eurytos wrote:wow!

I never knew you could click on the dates to change them. :D
Sometimes I think everybody has to learn this by chance. I don't know if this should be necessary?
Don: maybe you should change your mind?