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recycle bin back in toolbar
Posted: 28 Feb 2010 13:36
by carmenm
Hi,
I really love the new recycle bin. The only thing i miss about it is a toolbar entry. Why? mostly because i can quickly empty it.
Also i think it would be nice to have an option no to have to confirm when emptying the recycle bin.
Thanks a lot for all your hard work!
Martin
Re: recycle bin back in toolbar
Posted: 28 Feb 2010 13:53
by zer0
carmenm wrote:Hi,
I really love the new recycle bin. The only thing i miss about it is a toolbar entry. Why? mostly because i can quickly empty it.
Also i think it would be nice to have an option no to have to confirm when emptying the recycle bin.
Thanks a lot for all your hard work!
Martin
Since command ID was removed, I resorted to using nircmd (
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/nircmd.html). If you're OK with using it (it's free
), the following script takes care of silent (no prompt) emptying of RB -- substitute location of the EXE as appropriate
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run '"D:\Program Files\System\NirCmd\nircmd.exe" emptybin';
Re: recycle bin back in toolbar
Posted: 28 Feb 2010 14:45
by carmenm
Yeah that could be a temporary solution. But still i think those features should be part of XY.
Thanks for the tip Zer0 i will use it for now
Re: recycle bin back in toolbar
Posted: 28 Feb 2010 19:13
by Muroph
i also missed that button, but i managed to create a CTB to replace it.
for the left button i use
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run "::{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}";
to open the shell recycle bin.
use this for the right click:
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"&Virtual RB...|%recycler%" goto "%recycler%";
-
"Open Recycle B&in..." run "::{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}";
"Recycle Bin &Stats..." open "<xyscripts>\recycler_stats.vbs";
"&Empty Recycle Bin..." open "<xyscripts>\recycler_empty.vbs";
download this file and extract it to xy's scripts folder.
RB Scripts.zip
if your windows language is not english, you will have to edit the file recycler_empty.vbs.
replace 'Empty Recycle &Bin' with whatever that item is called in your recycle bin context menu.
don't forget to put an '&' before the char that is underlined.
that's it.
the old RB toolbar icon is back.
Re: recycle bin back in toolbar
Posted: 28 Feb 2010 19:29
by admin
carmenm wrote:Hi,
I really love the new recycle bin. The only thing i miss about it is a toolbar entry. Why? mostly because i can quickly empty it.
Also i think it would be nice to have an option no to have to confirm when emptying the recycle bin.
Thanks a lot for all your hard work!
Martin
You want a button to show the bin, or to empty the bin, or both?
Re: recycle bin back in toolbar
Posted: 01 Mar 2010 11:42
by carmenm
Actually i was hoping to get the same button as before but using your new recycle bin(with maybe a empty/full icon state
). What do you think?
Re: recycle bin back in toolbar
Posted: 01 Mar 2010 11:50
by admin
carmenm wrote:Actually i was hoping to get the same button as before but using your new recycle bin(with maybe a empty/full icon state
). What do you think?
You have recycle bin under the MyComputer button. More would be bloat IMO.
Re: recycle bin back in toolbar
Posted: 01 Mar 2010 11:54
by carmenm
Actually i dont see the recycle bin under my computer, i mustr have missed an option.
Moreover i really think it s not the same as a toolbar button. Button allows fast access.
Re: recycle bin back in toolbar
Posted: 01 Mar 2010 12:08
by zer0
carmenm wrote:Actually i was hoping to get the same button as before but using your new recycle bin(with maybe a empty/full icon state
). What do you think?
I'd like to second this wish. Having environment-dependent TB buttons that would change visually to indicate a particular state (empty/full, in this case) is not only cool, but useful too. It also makes sense ergonomically -- the correct way to adjust a seating position is to have line of sight on level with top edge of the screen/window aka area where the toolbar is
This way, instead of looking down and to the left, a user will be able to see a button's state quicker and make a decision faster. We already have "Save Settings" button that changes colour, so one foot is in the door
Re: recycle bin back in toolbar
Posted: 01 Mar 2010 12:27
by Muroph
i changed the recycler_stats.vbs script from my previous post.
it was hardcoded to use "," as the decimal separator, which would not work in some languages.
now the separator is automatically detected by the script.
zer0 wrote:carmenm wrote:Actually i was hoping to get the same button as before but using your new recycle bin(with maybe a empty/full icon state
). What do you think?
I'd like to second this wish. Having environment-dependent TB buttons that would change visually to indicate a particular state (empty/full, in this case) is not only cool, but useful too.
+1
Re: recycle bin back in toolbar
Posted: 01 Mar 2010 16:08
by admin
carmenm wrote:Actually i dont see the recycle bin under my computer, i mustr have missed an option.
Moreover i really think it s not the same as a toolbar button. Button allows fast access.
I said: "You have recycle bin under the
MyComputer *button*. More would be bloat IMO."
Re: recycle bin back in toolbar
Posted: 01 Mar 2010 18:09
by zer0
admin wrote:I said: "You have recycle bin under the
MyComputer *button*. More would be bloat IMO."
While it eases the navigation to RB, it does not provide for the ease of using RB that would be achieved if a dedicated button is given. Perhaps we're talking CTB 2.0 or 3.0 here, but dynamic functionality could be achieved visually by providing fields for assignment of an icon for default state and an icon for a changed state. I see this feature commonly in "dock" software.
Therefore, I suppose, the action (and visual) flow could potentially be as follows:
RB empty icon in TB --> Delete a file --> RB icon changes to "RB full" icon --> Click on this TB button --> [prompt to empty], TB button changes state back to empty. Repeat from the beginning.
If people already go out of their way to find possible solutions to make things more convenient, perhaps an idea of more complex integration (not necessarily right this second
) bears fruit?
Re: recycle bin back in toolbar
Posted: 02 Mar 2010 10:07
by carmenm
Sorry i didnt see the "button" in your message.
I tried with it. Ok we get a recycle bin entry. But we dont get a right menu with empty recycle bin.
I would still prefer a real recycle bin button, yet i am ok in having it in the My Computer button.
BUT the real point of it is to quickly empty the recycle bin. Right now there is no way to do it. You have to go into the recycle bin, right click on the background and do empty recycle bin. THen you have to say "yes". This is really too long.
If i went to all that to empty the recycle bin, of course i want to empty it so i dont really see the point in confirming.
I ll go with the script for now
Thanks for listening
Re: recycle bin back in toolbar
Posted: 03 Mar 2010 09:58
by admin
I don't see the big point in emptying the recycle bin quickly and without a prompt. I find this rather adventurous.
Re: recycle bin back in toolbar
Posted: 03 Mar 2010 10:32
by zer0
admin wrote:I don't see the big point in emptying the recycle bin quickly and without a prompt. I find this rather adventurous.
We can already turn off the delete confirmation, so one can definitely draw a parallel line between deleting without a prompt and emptying without a prompt. For those in
need of a prompt, one can always stick in a
msg command in the spokes