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Can't access hosts file or System32\drivers\etc on Vista x64

Posted: 25 Jan 2010 14:02
by lukescammell
Hi Don,

Just found an irritating little bug...

If you put this in the AB of WE:

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%systemroot%\system32\drivers\etc\
you get to

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C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc
Put either in XY and it says "Couldn't find location".

Vista SP2 x64
XY 8.80.0036

Re: Can't access hosts file or System32\drivers\etc on Vista x64

Posted: 25 Jan 2010 14:10
by admin
WOW64... :)

Re: Can't access hosts file or System32\drivers\etc on Vista x64

Posted: 25 Jan 2010 14:20
by lukescammell
Yes, I know WOW64 is a PITA, but this is still a bug :P If WE can do it XY *really* should be able to, and it's not like this is something that your power users aren't going to be trying to access ;)

Re: Can't access hosts file or System32\drivers\etc on Vista x64

Posted: 25 Jan 2010 14:24
by admin
lukescammell wrote:Yes, I know WOW64 is a PITA, but this is still a bug :P If WE can do it XY *really* should be able to, and it's not like this is something that your power users aren't going to be trying to access ;)
XY64 will be able to do it. But XY32 cannot do it because its (WOW redirected) %systemroot%\system32\drivers\etc\ simply does not exist.

Re: Can't access hosts file or System32\drivers\etc on Vista x64

Posted: 25 Jan 2010 15:25
by lukescammell
Okay thanks for explaining Don. That's a real bugger :(

Re: Can't access hosts file or System32\drivers\etc on Vista x64

Posted: 28 Jan 2010 11:10
by admin
FYI: The-long-wait-for-64-bit-PC-software-continues
http://windowssecrets.com/2010/01/28/01 ... -continues

Re: Can't access hosts file or System32\drivers\etc on Vista x64

Posted: 28 Jan 2010 12:40
by zer0
admin wrote:FYI: The-long-wait-for-64-bit-PC-software-continues
http://windowssecrets.com/2010/01/28/01 ... -continues
I don't really want to open this can of worms, but I must say this: Michael Lasky is incorrect in many ways in his article. He says that there are no 64-bit versions of major applications and then goes on to speak of...drumroll...64-bit versions of major applications. He also seems oblivious to the fact that Office 2010 has a 64-bit version. Also, Exchange 2010 is 64-bit only. Granted, most major software is in alpha/beta and not on all platforms, but it hardly seems fair for him to relegate them to non-existence -- that's the impression I'm getting. That's it, can closed, no more worms :mrgreen:

Re: Can't access hosts file or System32\drivers\etc on Vista x64

Posted: 29 Jan 2010 12:28
by lukescammell
zer0 wrote:
admin wrote:FYI: The-long-wait-for-64-bit-PC-software-continues
http://windowssecrets.com/2010/01/28/01 ... -continues
I don't really want to open this can of worms, but I must say this: Michael Lasky is incorrect in many ways in his article...
Yeah, no kidding!
To this day, however, 64-bit versions of such major applications as <snip!> Adobe Photoshop <snip!> have been vaporware.
Dear GOD! How can something this poorly researched be published? I don't know about the rest of you, but I've been using 64bit Adobe Photoshop for over a year. Since CS4 Photoshop has been 64bit for PC. That's just truly shocking...
Photoshop users are left wondering why it has taken Adobe so long to release a 64-bit version of the popular image-editing app.
However, to take advantage of 64-bit processing, users need to allocate more than 4GB RAM solely to Photoshop, <snip!> That means you would need much more system memory than most PCs ship with today.
Oh please! 4x2GB RAM is ~£160, which is hardly breaking the bank if you're going to be using the computer in a work scenario.
While we await release of the 64-bit version of Photoshop...
Only Mac users...

Anyway, I don't think that XY itself actually *needs* to be 64bit, other than for the shell extensions capability and the ability to actually be taken seriously as a filemanager to administer a 64bit version of Windows. I doubt there would be any other tangible benefits to it going 64bit, but those are two pretty important ones in my book.

I realise the reason we don't have a 64bit version yet is that there isn't a 64bit capable VB compiler, but I do wonder what you plan on doing, Don, should there *never* be a 64bit VB compiler? I personally have to use a 64bit copy of Windows in order to support >4GB memory (try running multiple Adobe CS apps and a couple of VMs and see how piddly <4GB RAM feels) so this is something that I would be interested to hear the answer to.

Re: Can't access hosts file or System32\drivers\etc on Vista x64

Posted: 29 Jan 2010 12:44
by admin
lukescammell wrote:I realise the reason we don't have a 64bit version yet is that there isn't a 64bit capable VB compiler, but I do wonder what you plan on doing, Don, should there *never* be a 64bit VB compiler?
Write one myself. :P Of course, there's always the option to migrate to another language. Not nice, but many have gone this way since VB was abandoned by MS, so it's an option.

Re: Can't access hosts file or System32\drivers\etc on Vista x64

Posted: 29 Jan 2010 14:19
by graham
admin wrote:
Of course, there's always the option to migrate to another language. Not nice, but many have gone this way since VB was abandoned by MS, so it's an option.
Dare I comment, a sensible option - not easy but future proof and will provide more opportunities I guess programming. Now is the time to take this gigantic step as it can be 'shared' in line with the existing VB XY and as that is proved as a specification it is mainly the language barrier. That said, most languages, even high level ones, fall back to the root code.

Re: Can't access hosts file or System32\drivers\etc on Vista x64

Posted: 01 Feb 2010 16:35
by lukescammell
Just thinking out loud for a moment, if you were to rewrite in .NET you *could* even make XY a cross platform file brwser since you can run .NET apps using Mono on both Linux and OSX. Sorry, just a small dream of mine to have XY available on OSX and Linux, would certainly make admining them a *LOT* better - sorry, but Finder and Nautilus suck compared to XY...

Re: Can't access hosts file or System32\drivers\etc on Vista x64

Posted: 01 Feb 2010 16:49
by admin
lukescammell wrote:Just thinking out loud for a moment, if you were to rewrite in .NET you *could* even make XY a cross platform file brwser since you can run .NET apps using Mono on both Linux and OSX. Sorry, just a small dream of mine to have XY available on OSX and Linux, would certainly make admining them a *LOT* better - sorry, but Finder and Nautilus suck compared to XY...
.NET = Never

Linux. AFAIK XY runs under Ubuntu.

Re: Can't access hosts file or System32\drivers\etc on Vista x64

Posted: 02 Feb 2010 16:28
by lukescammell
admin wrote:.NET = Never
Ah well, there go my cross platform dreams =D
admin wrote:Linux. AFAIK XY runs under Ubuntu.
I assume you mean using Wine?

Re: Can't access hosts file or System32\drivers\etc on Vista x64

Posted: 03 Feb 2010 08:40
by admin
lukescammell wrote:
admin wrote:Linux. AFAIK XY runs under Ubuntu.
I assume you mean using Wine?
Ah yes.

Re: Can't access hosts file or System32\drivers\etc on Vista x64

Posted: 15 Mar 2010 03:45
by paul0
I have a similar problem in Windows 7 64bit.

Xyplorer cannot locate the directory of C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc, but can see the directory of C:\Windows\System32\drivers.

Problem of this bugs: I cannot touch any files under C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc, such as hosts.

Explorer has no such issue. :cry: