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Can I remove this thumb background?

Posted: 14 Jan 2010 22:51
by Dave-X
The background on folder thumbs is so annoying. I can't find an option to modify or disable it in anyway. I'm talking about the bright yellow border that appears around folder images. Even with thumbs the same size as the view size, there is an ugly annoying edge around it.

Maybe through ini editing can I disable it?

Thanks.

Re: Can I remove this thumb background?

Posted: 14 Jan 2010 23:01
by admin
Nope, you can't. It shows you that these are folders. How else will you show this?

Re: Can I remove this thumb background?

Posted: 14 Jan 2010 23:16
by Dave-X
Use a default icon. Not a forced background underlay.

Re: Can I remove this thumb background?

Posted: 15 Jan 2010 08:56
by admin
Dave-X wrote:Use a default icon. Not a forced background underlay.
Given that folder thumbnails can fill almost the whole available space and thus cover most of the icon I don't really see the improvement. Also keep in my mind that the size of thumbnails is infinitely variable so how could one icon do this job? Well, thinking about it there's probably a misunderstanding here. What your blue lines point to is not an underlay but an overlay. Your screenshot does not look to me like showing any folder thumbnails at all. Maybe you should just untick folder thumbnails in configuration / thumbnails...

Re: Can I remove this thumb background?

Posted: 15 Jan 2010 09:55
by Dave-X
The screen is strickly showing folder thumbnails. I designed my thumbs to have the blue-border around it. There is not an overlay or underlay in the second image. Just the image. From the pictures you can see that I like folder thumbnails. I do not like the that Windows 98'ish orange auto-background placed on all folder thumbnails. What is the point of having transparency if it's filled with this nasty background? Even images that are the same size as the thumbnail view size have a orange border around it.
admin wrote:Also keep in my mind that the size of thumbnails is infinitely variable so how could one icon do this job?
I'm not sure if I understand what your saying, but I think you mean there can be any number of folder depths.

My solution would be: If default icon is defined and no folder thumb is found, use defined default icon instead.

Re: Can I remove this thumb background?

Posted: 15 Jan 2010 11:24
by admin
Dave-X wrote:The screen is strickly showing folder thumbnails. I designed my thumbs to have the blue-border around it. There is not an overlay or underlay in the second image. Just the image. From the pictures you can see that I like folder thumbnails. I do not like the that Windows 98'ish orange auto-background placed on all folder thumbnails. What is the point of having transparency if it's filled with this nasty background? Even images that are the same size as the thumbnail view size have a orange border around it.
admin wrote:Also keep in my mind that the size of thumbnails is infinitely variable so how could one icon do this job?
I'm not sure if I understand what your saying, but I think you mean there can be any number of folder depths.

My solution would be: If default icon is defined and no folder thumb is found, use defined default icon instead.
I mean you can configure thumbnails to be e.g. 479 x 123 pixels. The orange background will work with that and any other size easily, but an icon?

Re: Can I remove this thumb background?

Posted: 15 Jan 2010 11:54
by Dave-X
admin wrote:I mean you can configure thumbnails to be e.g. 479 x 123 pixels. The orange background will work with that and any other size easily, but an icon?
For icon I mean, an image inside the folder such as a PNG or JPG, not an actual icon. I've set the icon of folders with real ICO files, but despite the preview size matching the highest resolution image in the ICO file. XY will fail to use it, instead using lower 32 x 32 pixels for example instead of the 256 x 256 image. That's beside the point.

My only dislike is still the orange background being put around folders. It's not required, looks ugly, and I wish it could be disabled.

Re: Can I remove this thumb background?

Posted: 15 Jan 2010 11:59
by admin
Dave-X wrote:
admin wrote:I mean you can configure thumbnails to be e.g. 479 x 123 pixels. The orange background will work with that and any other size easily, but an icon?
For icon I mean, an image inside the folder such as a PNG or JPG, not an actual icon. I've set the icon of folders with real ICO files, but despite the preview size matching the highest resolution image in the ICO file. XY will fail to use it, instead using lower 32 x 32 pixels for example instead of the 256 x 256 image. That's beside the point.

My only dislike is still the orange background being put around folders. It's not required, looks ugly, and I wish it could be disabled.
XYplorer's folders thumbnails having nothing to do real ICO files attached to folders via system means. Did you try to turn off "Show Folder Thumbnails" as I suggested?

Re: Can I remove this thumb background?

Posted: 15 Jan 2010 12:04
by Dave-X
I turned it off and now there are no images on folders.

I do not have icon files set to folders via any means. The folders simple contain a folder.png image.

Re: Can I remove this thumb background?

Posted: 15 Jan 2010 12:13
by admin
Dave-X wrote:I turned it off and now there are no images on folders.

I do not have icon files set to folders via any means. The folders simple contain a folder.png image.
Oh, yes. I read your statement "I've set the icon of folders with real ICO files, ..." without paying enough attention to the sentence before that one.

OK, then we are back to question #1: Without the orange background how will you show that these things are folders? OK, I know that you have set up special "icons" that make that clear for you, but I doubt anybody else would profit from an option to remove the thumb background.

Or is there anybody else? (Please, I mean NOT theoretically, NOT philosophically, NOT-how-a-good-file-manager-should-be-like-ally. I mean is there somebody who is -- in his real every day work -- disturbed by the presence of orange thumb backgrounds? I will not reply to any theoretical discussion of this...

Re: Can I remove this thumb background?

Posted: 15 Jan 2010 12:28
by Dave-X
As I tried to explain before.

You could have a feature that is disabled by default. This would be the normal orange background that is being displayed now. I'm sure 98% of the XY users would prefer this method and don't care.

If the option is enabled, it would give you the option to select one base folder image. This would disable the orange background and that image would be used for all folders that DO NOT contain an image (such as folder.png) or have a system set icon.

That's all ;)

Re: Can I remove this thumb background?

Posted: 17 Jan 2010 05:03
by Someone777
Would be a nice feature. The best apps are always the more customizable ones.

Re: Can I remove this thumb background?

Posted: 17 Jan 2010 13:54
by admin
Someone777 wrote:The best apps are always the more customizable ones.
Hi + welcome,

this ain't enough to add a feature to XYplorer.

Don

Re: Can I remove this thumb background?

Posted: 17 Jan 2010 13:55
by admin
I experimented with the thumb background and now find that it looks better without the 1-pixel orange frame line around it so I removed that one.

Re: Can I remove this thumb background?

Posted: 17 Jan 2010 15:48
by Dave-X
Are you talking about when the image size matches the preview size? So a folder containing a 256x256 image when the thumbnail preview size is also 256x256 no longer has the orange border? That sounds good. :)