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'Open with' popup menu position
Posted: 09 Sep 2009 20:16
by kinook
The 'File | Open with' menu displays at the mouse cursor position instead of in the focused pane.
Re: 'Open with' popup menu position
Posted: 09 Sep 2009 21:10
by Stefan
kinook wrote:The 'File | Open with' menu displays at the mouse cursor position instead of in the focused pane.
Yes, i am searching for an answer about this too.
If 'File | Open with' would be executed by an mouse click
this (displays at the mouse cursor position) may be ok
but using the KB "Alt+F,w" or "Ctr+Alt+Enter" i would prefer an other position
of this pop-up,... may center of screen?
regardless of the mouse pos./active pane/selection
Re: 'Open with' popup menu position
Posted: 10 Sep 2009 09:11
by admin
What's the problem with the current way?
Re: 'Open with' popup menu position
Posted: 10 Sep 2009 09:35
by j_c_hallgren
admin wrote:What's the problem with the current way?
I don't use this that often as I tend to do this differently, but in checking on it, what I see is that current way can obscure the file item in list that is being opened so having it positioned based on where item is on list would seem somewhat preferable.
Re: 'Open with' popup menu position
Posted: 10 Sep 2009 12:49
by admin
j_c_hallgren wrote:admin wrote:What's the problem with the current way?
I don't use this that often as I tend to do this differently, but in checking on it, what I see is that current way can obscure the file item in list that is being opened so having it positioned based on where item is on list would seem somewhat preferable.
OK, agreed & done.
Re: 'Open with' popup menu position
Posted: 10 Sep 2009 15:38
by j_c_hallgren
admin wrote:OK, agreed & done.
Better, but still could be improved just a bit more...sorry...
Now it pops up so that bottom half of name is still covered over...could it appear
under the last (or only) item(s) selected in list? So that names of any/all items would still show fully?
And if possible, I think this should apply when invoked via menu click (File>Open With) as well, since it's quite easy for the popup to hide item this way as well when item is close to top of list and length of "open with" entries being rather long due to where application pgm is located in nested sub-folders.
Dislike being this nitpicky but it should make it easier to double-check that you're about to open the desired file(s) and shouldn't have any negative effects, I believe.
Re: 'Open with' popup menu position
Posted: 10 Sep 2009 15:59
by admin
j_c_hallgren wrote:admin wrote:OK, agreed & done.
Better, but still could be improved just a bit more...sorry...
Now it pops up so that bottom half of name is still covered over...could it appear
under the last (or only) item(s) selected in list? So that names of any/all items would still show fully?
And if possible, I think this should apply when invoked via menu click (File>Open With) as well, since it's quite easy for the popup to hide item this way as well when item is close to top of list and length of "open with" entries being rather long due to where application pgm is located in nested sub-folders.
Dislike being this nitpicky but it should make it easier to double-check that you're about to open the desired file(s) and shouldn't have any negative effects, I believe.
The current position is Windows standard exactly.
Menu click triggered popups must always popup at mouse cursor. It's the law.
Re: 'Open with' popup menu position
Posted: 11 Sep 2009 06:59
by Gandolf
admin wrote:...The current position is Windows standard exactly.
Menu click triggered popups must always popup at mouse cursor. It's the law.
No it's not.
In at least three file managers (and many other applications) that I use the context menu opens at the point of focus and not at the mouse pointer. I have an auto-park facility that places the mouse off screen if not used for a period of time, so I very quickly know where the context menu opens.
It's these sort of small irritations that make or break an applications ease of use.
Re: 'Open with' popup menu position
Posted: 11 Sep 2009 09:03
by admin
Gandolf wrote:admin wrote:...The current position is Windows standard exactly.
Menu click triggered popups must always popup at mouse cursor. It's the law.
No it's not.
In at least three file managers (and many other applications) that I use the context menu opens at the point of focus and not at the mouse pointer. I have an auto-park facility that places the mouse off screen if not used for a period of time, so I very quickly know where the context menu opens.
It's these sort of small irritations that make or break an applications ease of use.
Never ever saw this and it would be totally irritating. Where have you seen this?
(Just to be sure: I'm talking about clicking a main menu item which then opens a popup menu.)
Re: 'Open with' popup menu position
Posted: 11 Sep 2009 09:24
by j_c_hallgren
Ok...after reading the back-n-forth above, and thinking about it some more, I realized why having menu pop-up appear at cursor pos makes sense (hey, sometimes I don't think correctly or fully at this time of night -
SORRY!
) as you're going to have to make a selection and if cursor is where menu left it and pop-up is elsewhere, how would you select it immediately without moving cursor?
So...for that part of my idea...I guess I'll need to retract it...now for the other part, even though the half-overlay is "standard", that might be something that could be improved on without any negative impact.
Re: 'Open with' popup menu position
Posted: 11 Sep 2009 20:40
by Stefan
Much better now Don, thanks.
j_c_hallgren wrote:admin wrote:OK, agreed & done.
Now it pops up so that bottom half of name is still covered over...
could it appear
under the last (or only) item(s) selected in list?
So that names of any/all items would still show fully?
I agree let's see more of the file name if possible.
To let the dialog appear above/under the item only would not be THE solution
because the dialog will then still hide the other selected items.
But maybe it is possible to do not cover the first few pixels (~20 chars) ?
i mean move the dialog to the right side a lill bit.
Re: 'Open with' popup menu position
Posted: 11 Sep 2009 20:47
by admin
Stefan wrote:Much better now Don, thanks.
j_c_hallgren wrote:admin wrote:OK, agreed & done.
Now it pops up so that bottom half of name is still covered over...
could it appear
under the last (or only) item(s) selected in list?
So that names of any/all items would still show fully?
I agree let's see more of the file name if possible.
To let the dialog appear above/under the item only would not be THE solution
because the dialog will then still hide the other selected items.
But maybe it is possible to do not cover the first few pixels (~20 chars) ?
i mean move the dialog to the right side a lill bit.
I see your point but I will stick to the standard. If I don't I get loads of mails and posts bombarding me about why I don't stick to the standard. I'm just fed up with this. Yes, in a way I gave up to the trolls. But I just have no capacity to deal with these loads of, uhm, fascinating user feedback.
Re: 'Open with' popup menu position
Posted: 11 Sep 2009 21:00
by TheQwerty
admin wrote:I will stick to the standard. If I don't I get loads of mails and posts bombarding me about why I don't stick to the standard. I'm just fed up with this. Yes, in a way I gave up to the trolls. But I just have no capacity to deal with these loads of, uhm, fascinating user feedback.
That's why you've given us so many configuration and tweak options, is it not? The default should be the standards, but when the standards just don't cut it the user should be able to adjust.
So couldn't the position of this menu obey the setting of this tweak:
Code: Select all
; Tweak: popup navigation menus at selected control or item
PopupMenusAtSelection=1
And show up either in the focused control or at the menu bar?
Re: 'Open with' popup menu position
Posted: 12 Sep 2009 12:51
by admin
Stefan wrote:Much better now Don, thanks.
j_c_hallgren wrote:admin wrote:OK, agreed & done.
Now it pops up so that bottom half of name is still covered over...
could it appear
under the last (or only) item(s) selected in list?
So that names of any/all items would still show fully?
I agree let's see more of the file name if possible.
To let the dialog appear above/under the item only would not be THE solution
because the dialog will then still hide the other selected items.
But maybe it is possible to do not cover the first few pixels (~20 chars) ?
i mean move the dialog to the right side a lill bit.
I played around with it a bit, had a beer, and decided you are right. To hell with the standard!
Re: 'Open with' popup menu position
Posted: 12 Sep 2009 14:16
by Stefan
