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File Preview & Change Dates

Posted: 01 Oct 2005 21:52
by jacky
Hi,

Okay a couple of things. First with the file previewing. I'm guessing you know about the little bug, the scrollbar let us go a it too more (to have only the last line on top) even if there's only like a couple of lines.

Also, I think it would be good if we could have a way to only select a part of a line. Right now we can only select line by line, which isn't always welcome.
And I have a weird pb with one file, I have no idea why but in the preview the HScroll won't let me see the end of the longest line. I have to use wrapping to see it all. I tried to see why it did that (line too long or something) but wasn't able to find out....


About changing dates now. I know we can do it from the panel, but I wish there was a way to update dates for a group of files in a row.
My case, I need to change the modification dates to current for all files in one folder (and its subfolder).
So maybe some menu like the Rename Special one, but with options to update the different dates for selected files. That'd be really usefull (to me, at least :D)

One last thing, while I'm there, about renaming files. Could there be a way, or is there one I'm not aware of, to use "numbers". So if we have a group of files, we select them and choose to rename them "Picture $NB2$.jpg" they'll be renamed into "Picture 01.jpg", "Picture 02.jpg", "Picture 03.jpg", etc
Right now we can do a lot of stuff with the S&R and the regexp, but I don't think than can be done, and it's would be really cool to have this :D

Re: File Preview & Change Dates

Posted: 03 Oct 2005 13:29
by admin
jacky wrote:First with the file previewing. I'm guessing you know about the little bug, the scrollbar let us go a it too more (to have only the last line on top) even if there's only like a couple of lines.
It's not a bug but one of the common approaches to scrolling. AFAIK to leave just the last line visible on top is typical for editors, while leaving as much bottoms lines as possible within the view port is typical for lists. Now, as the TV3 file view is rather as list than an editor (see your 2nd point), you are right that the current behavior is not expected. And indeed I changed it, but only for non-wrapped views. It's surprisingly non-trivial to preview the print height of a wrapped text (while keeping good performance), so I just left it as it is for wrapped views.
jacky wrote:Also, I think it would be good if we could have a way to only select a part of a line. Right now we can only select line by line, which isn't always welcome.
I'd like that, too, and I tried it some time ago but gave up because, once again, the wrapping added more complexity than I was willing to take that day. It's on my list (somewhere at the end :wink: ).
jacky wrote:And I have a weird pb with one file, I have no idea why but in the preview the HScroll won't let me see the end of the longest line. I have to use wrapping to see it all. I tried to see why it did that (line too long or something) but wasn't able to find out....
I followed UltraEdit in auto-wrapping lines than 2048 chars. So the end of your line could be actually the next line. Is it?
jacky wrote:About changing dates now. I know we can do it from the panel, but I wish there was a way to update dates for a group of files in a row.
My case, I need to change the modification dates to current for all files in one folder (and its subfolder).
So maybe some menu like the Rename Special one, but with options to update the different dates for selected files. That'd be really usefull (to me, at least :D)
You can already group-time-stamp: have one file focused (to actually bring up the time-stamping interface) and as many other files as you want selected; time-stamping will now apply to all selected files. (Same with Attributes)
jacky wrote:One last thing, while I'm there, about renaming files. Could there be a way, or is there one I'm not aware of, to use "numbers". So if we have a group of files, we select them and choose to rename them "Picture $NB2$.jpg" they'll be renamed into "Picture 01.jpg", "Picture 02.jpg", "Picture 03.jpg", etc
Right now we can do a lot of stuff with the S&R and the regexp, but I don't think than can be done, and it's would be really cool to have this :D
Well, maybe later... make it a separate wish.

Re: File Preview & Change Dates

Posted: 03 Oct 2005 17:40
by jacky
admin wrote:I followed UltraEdit in auto-wrapping lines than 2048 chars. So the end of your line could be actually the next line. Is it?
Well, actually the file has only 38 lines, and that line has only 248 characters. But for some reason on that line I can only see to #234. Just to see I tried changing to font (large, heavy) but it always stops there...
There must be something special with that file, but I don't know what :?:

jacky wrote:You can already group-time-stamp: have one file focused (to actually bring up the time-stamping interface) and as many other files as you want selected; time-stamping will now apply to all selected files. (Same with Attributes)
Sweet! 8) Then, why not updating the general file info, you know empty DOS name & type, size too (or put the total size) and in the filename zone have like "file1.ext, file2.ext, etc" so we can see it's a group thing ?

Also, for the dates, could you add an entry "Current" in the right-click menu, that would, well, put the current date/time in the field ? That'd be cool ;)

Re: File Preview & Change Dates

Posted: 03 Oct 2005 17:54
by admin
#234... Send me your weird file.

Updating the general file info... good idea!

Current date... empty field + apply => current date (oh yes, I know I should update the help file..., what can I do? HELP ME! A free license for the first good idea how to avoid updating the bloody help file!)

Posted: 03 Oct 2005 20:25
by JustinF
What about a tooltip when you hover over the date being edited?

Posted: 03 Oct 2005 23:17
by jacky
JustinF wrote:What about a tooltip when you hover over the date being edited?
That's a good idea :)

On a more global note, probably not a solution but having a tips.txt file with the usual "Did you know...?" window could help. Of course you'd have to update that file... :P

Posted: 04 Oct 2005 11:06
by admin
jacky wrote:
JustinF wrote:What about a tooltip when you hover over the date being edited?
That's a good idea :)
Done: "Leave empty for current date." Is that good English?
jacky wrote:On a more global note, probably not a solution but having a tips.txt file with the usual "Did you know...?" window could help. Of course you'd have to update that file... :P
Actually I have been thinking about this plus making it a collective endeavor! IOW: you make the job! :lol: No seriously, I combined-brains tips.txt would be a very useful addition for TV3; even myself sometimes need a reminder for all those loads of hidden features.

Re: File Preview & Change Dates

Posted: 04 Oct 2005 19:03
by admin
jacky wrote:Sweet! 8) Then, why not updating the general file info, you know empty DOS name & type, size too (or put the total size) and in the filename zone have like "file1.ext, file2.ext, etc" so we can see it's a group thing ?
I did it kind of half way... just a little message to the Name field.
Changing the other fields looked like a touch too much and rather confusing.

Re: File Preview & Change Dates

Posted: 04 Oct 2005 22:05
by jacky
admin wrote:I did it kind of half way... just a little message to the Name field.
Changing the other fields looked like a touch too much and rather confusing.
Yeah I've seen, looks just fine like it is. No need to hide/change the other fields you're right. 8)

Posted: 13 Oct 2005 17:46
by jacky
Another little thing for the groupping stuff: it would be nice if it could work when we select a bunch of files, using mouse, but without having to actually click on a row.

My case is, I have a folder and I need to update to current date all its files, including in all the subfolders. So what I do is go in one, select all the files using the mouse, but then since there hasn't been a row "really" selected, the "General File Info" thing is empty :(
On the same idea, if I go into a folder, use a filter to select a bunch of files (OT: what's up about the other filters (tab & colors) that were discussed a while ago?) then the General File Info is still empty

Even worse :P if I select one file to "get it working", then apply a selection filter (which doesn't include that file), the GFI panel is about the file previously selected, not the others actually selected now!!

Posted: 13 Oct 2005 17:57
by admin
What you want is not possible for internal reasons.

But it's not as bad as you describe it: first select a file that prefills your date fields, then select the files you want to stamp.

Those stamping features are admittedly half-heartedly implemented (although they function perfectly!). I'd rather see them as hidden features, and if you don't stop complaining I will take them out completely. :P

Posted: 13 Oct 2005 18:15
by jacky
:P

Actually what I said is wrong, if you select a file (click on it), then either use the mouse or use a selection filter to select some other files, the GFI is about the first (clicked-on) file, but once you start changing dates/attributes then it will applied to the files actually selected !

Then I'll say, but as dreaming out loud, not complaining ;), that it would be cool if a click on the empty panel would "select then unselect" the file on the focused row. Just like we hold Ctrl and click on that file, twice.
That way the file would actually not get selected, but the GFI will be "activated" (with its info) and be usable for the selected files.

Event better would be for it to work that way if there are files selected, but if not it would just select the file on the focused row. 8)

Posted: 13 Oct 2005 18:20
by admin
Yeah, a lot of things would be cool but are not possible :lol: Take it as an opportunity for some meditation :P