Well, I haven't been much around lately (or more precisely, active, but I kept an eye on the forums, I can't help myself
) and I'm sorry about that, but I had to deal with a few things I didn't plan on... Still, let me add my opinion on this one.
admin wrote:I'm slightly surprised by the demand for the old layout. As I said in another thread I will see whether I can bring it back in form of an optional "Wide Tab Bar" setting...
Alright, so color me surprised you were surprised....
And not just because I mentioned that already before, and you know I'm always right!
admin wrote:(2) Even if you don't use Dual Pane you will benefit from it because it brought along a general "clean up" of the code, which made XY (for you) faster and (for me) easier to maintain.
You see, I might have not followed the while DP thing, and I am one of the few who do not care for DP and while I wouldn't say I will never use it (never say never), I'm 100% sure than at least 99.99% of the time, I won't be using it. It just doesn't go with my workflow and the way I do things.
But I have nothing against it I guess, except that there is a reason (other than me being late in the XY department lately
) I'm still using an old pre-DP beta myself. The way I see things, switching to the new beta will mean that I will have to "lose" things. And that is, yes, because of that "new" layout.
I know a few things have been added along the way that I would be interested in, I've also heard of a coming <source> param for report (hola, Don!) that sounds quite exciting, and yet even with all that I can't get myself to upgrade. I know I might sound crazy, but here's why I hate this new layout.
I love my pixels, and always try to save them. I like to have the most info possible visible on screen, and when I say that, I don't mean shit I don't care about, I don't need to be told the date or even the time (I got the taskbar clock for that), my keyboard already tells me whether or not I have caplock or numpad on, no I do mean info I actually do want/need. That's also why I chose carefully what I add in my TB: each button eats my Tabs, and so that should only happen if there's a reason for it. (Plus, I don't want buttons I'd never use/forget why they're here.)
If I upgrade to this new layout :
- With only 9 buttons on my TB on a maximized window (1440x900), I would have an unbelievable amount of wasted space just lost, and I can't stand that. No way. Adding the AB means nothing to me, because I don't use/need it, so that or pictures of flowers and butterflies, same deal, it's wasted space to me. There's already the menubar, that's more than enough already.
Now I could just remove my TB, after all I'm already "hacking" into XY to add some stuff on that long and otherwise quite empty menubar, but the problem is that I need all those buttons, I use them everyday, a lot, and many also act as visual indicator (VF, Hide Folders, Suspend AR, etc) so I can't replace them.
So either I have to lose my oh-so-beloved TB, or deal with a full (almost) row of nothing!
- Not only that, but I'm also losing more : not only is my List smaller (unless I remove my TB to "compensate," which I don't wanna do), but my Tabs are, too. They had almost my whole screen to show info, now we have to remove the size of my Tree/Catalog, which is somewhat large (as I don't want to have any horizontal scrolling there, another reason I'd love a 2-column Catalog, but that's another topic)
Right now, I know I will not get ride of my TB, and I really don't want to want to lose as much as I've described. And I just can't see myself not having Tabs showing at all either (Although, oddly enough, I have to say that is the option I would consider before any other).
I know, it might all sound silly/crazy to (some of) you, but guess what: I'm running XY 7.90.0254 right now, have been for a while, and I will only update if someone can provide me a file for 0261 (the last pre-DP/new layout), or when new beta will have that "Wide Tab Bar" option.
So yeah, it's easy to see how it wouldn't bother people who use AB or don't use TB/Tabs I guess, but I'm surprised you thought people who don't wouldn't be bothered by all this wasted space, and the lost of information just to gain nothing.
Okay, I'm done, sorry for the overlong rant. Back to silence
-jacky
). As someone who doesn't like and will never use the dual-pane feature, I would like to have a mode that makes no accommodations for (and disables) a dual-pane environment. Alternately, dual-pane users would have their own mode that fully accommodates them as well. It would bring the best for everyone and there would be no need for compromise.
You know that Don said just about the same thing a few yrs ago, and now he's even admitted to using it on occasion, so before you discount it totally, try it in dual single-pane mode and see how much benefit it can be for some situations.
