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Hide Folder in list

Posted: 10 May 2009 16:56
by Ysl
Hi

I find this option very useful which I use as a button on the desktop toolbar (see on the far left)

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My problem is that I do not see if it is on or off

Maybe it is possible to change the icon when folders are hided by modifying the button image

Thanks

Ysl

Re: Hide Folder in list

Posted: 10 May 2009 17:01
by jacky
Ysl wrote:My problem is that I do not see if it is on or off
Well, but there is a pressed state. In your picture for instance you can see the button is pressed, i.e. folders are hidden. It's the same visual effect as used with other buttons, such as (suspend) auto-refresh, FVS, etc

Re: Hide Folder in list

Posted: 10 May 2009 17:19
by Ysl
When watching very closely, I see the button is very slightly grayed when clicked

What would be great is like an oblique bar on the button to tell folders are hided

Thanks

Ysl

Re: Hide Folder in list

Posted: 18 Jun 2009 13:00
by Ysl
Let's see more clearly what I think would not be a bad idea

This is with the show folder option on :

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Now with the option OFF :

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The problem is that as I do not see that the option is OFF, I can think there is nothing on the drive/HDD !!!

So a proposition for a solution would be something like this :

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So you can not miss that the option Do Not Show Folder is ON

Thanks

Ysl

Re: Hide Folder in list

Posted: 18 Jun 2009 13:38
by admin
Could it be that you are the only one with that problem? Additionally to the pushed state you have numbers on the statusbar telling you that there's more to the folder than meets the eye.

Re: Hide Folder in list

Posted: 18 Jun 2009 16:41
by Ysl
Could it be that you are the only one with that problem?
I hope not !

Otherwise how many chances do I have that this will be improved ? :wink:

Re: Hide Folder in list

Posted: 18 Jun 2009 20:29
by admin
Ysl wrote:
Could it be that you are the only one with that problem?
I hope not !

Otherwise how many chances do I have that this will be improved ? :wink:
Only few... :P

Maybe you should calibrate your monitor - I find the pushed state very clear.

Re: Hide Folder in list

Posted: 18 Jun 2009 21:22
by Ysl
I have a Iiyama ProMaster454 CRT with a 1920*1440 resolution and if I change the setting, I can indeed see a little difference but it would be great if it was a little more obvious

Thanks again

Ysl

Re: Hide Folder in list

Posted: 18 Jun 2009 21:28
by TheQwerty
I have to say I agree with Ysl.. the two states on that button do look very similar, and the pressed state doesn't stand out much.
I think a lot of it has to do with the vanishing act the folder is doing so it would be good if this could be improved.

It seems a bit odd to me that this icon and the Hide System and Hidden file icons don't really match.

Re: Hide Folder in list

Posted: 19 Jun 2009 02:58
by j_c_hallgren
TheQwerty wrote:I have to say I agree with Ysl.. the two states on that button do look very similar, and the pressed state doesn't stand out much.
This is something that I'd not thought about before, but now that Ysl mentions it, I can also see his POV but from a slightly different aspect, in that having a slash thru it makes it more obvious that folders are blocked while the current pressed state doesn't give as much of a clue to a casual user of the button as to what it means.

Re: Hide Folder in list

Posted: 19 Jun 2009 08:03
by admin
j_c_hallgren wrote:
TheQwerty wrote:I have to say I agree with Ysl.. the two states on that button do look very similar, and the pressed state doesn't stand out much.
This is something that I'd not thought about before, but now that Ysl mentions it, I can also see his POV but from a slightly different aspect, in that having a slash thru it makes it more obvious that folders are blocked while the current pressed state doesn't give as much of a clue to a casual user of the button as to what it means.
But it's the same with the "H" and "S" buttons (hidden / system). I admit that I'm not extremely happy with the current graphics of the Show Folders button, striking thru a half-ghosty folder icon is no solution. TheQwerty's idea would be an option for me: A "D" button (directory) working just the "H" and "S" buttons -- BUT only for the List, hmmm ... not good. No, sorry, I have no better idea for now.

Re: Hide Folder in list

Posted: 19 Jun 2009 08:15
by j_c_hallgren
admin wrote:But it's the same with the "H" and "S" buttons (hidden / system).
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but those operate in the reverse/negated, in that these are "Show" whereas the 'folders' is "Hide", right? At least that's what the tooltip implies...or is it incorrect, given that the pull-down menu has "Show folders"?

Given the the red diagonal slash is the universal symbol for "No", I wonder if just having the icon with/without that and not have a 'pressed' status would be cleaner, in that when it's slashed, you don't want that item to be seen, and if unslashed, you do want to see it...

Re: Hide Folder in list

Posted: 19 Jun 2009 08:29
by Stefan
I think that's generally a good idea (for all developers/applications): allow to have two icons for one button.
One for true, one for false. Like with JavaScript on a web page when you hoover an icon and it turns.

Re: Hide Folder in list

Posted: 19 Jun 2009 10:03
by Ysl
I'm glad I'm not alone !

Re: Hide Folder in list

Posted: 19 Jun 2009 12:41
by PeterH
One thing I didn't understand: should the button show the current state, or the state you will get when you click the button?