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Not showing file extension

Posted: 04 Nov 2008 05:54
by binocular222
In the file list, I already have a Ext column, so I do not want to show file extension in the file name. Is that possible?

Re: Not showing file extension

Posted: 04 Nov 2008 08:00
by j_c_hallgren
Hi and welcome to the XY forums! Your question has come up more than once before, and seaching history, I found what may be the most recent thread at http://www.xyplorer.com/xyfc/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2579 where you can see Don's response to this...but the basic answer is: Sorry, no.

Re: Not showing file extension

Posted: 04 Nov 2008 08:33
by admin
Okay, I'm finally getting soft. I'll add it as a tweak...

Re: Not showing file extension

Posted: 04 Nov 2008 09:13
by j_c_hallgren
admin wrote:Okay, I'm finally getting soft. I'll add it as a tweak...
:shock: Say what? :lol: Based on other thread, that should make a couple of other users happy also...and I may even use it now and then also...thanks!

Re: Not showing file extension

Posted: 04 Nov 2008 09:14
by calude
thank you

you are so soft

:D

Calude

Re: Not showing file extension

Posted: 04 Nov 2008 16:35
by j_c_hallgren
Just as follow-up, here's the implementation:

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v7.70.0021 - 2008-11-04 10:34
    + Now you can opt to hide extensions from the filenames in the List. 
      It's currently done as a tweak:
        [Settings]
        HideExtensions=1
      Note that it's not recommended to hide extensions! Showing the 
      filenames without extension is hiding super-important info from 
      its natural place.

Re: Not showing file extension

Posted: 05 Nov 2008 11:15
by admin
calude wrote:thank you
So, does it work as expected?

Re: Not showing file extension

Posted: 05 Nov 2008 15:50
by j_c_hallgren
admin wrote:
calude wrote:thank you
So, does it work as expected?
Works for me! As I wrote before, I won't have this on as normal mode but there are times when I'd activate it temporarily...can't recall the exact conditions that I desired it just now.

However, for anyone coming from Win Expl who was used to that mode, this will solve that compatibility issue.

Re: Not showing file extension

Posted: 05 Nov 2008 16:02
by admin
j_c_hallgren wrote:
admin wrote:
calude wrote:thank you
So, does it work as expected?
Works for me! As I wrote before, I won't have this on as normal mode but there are times when I'd activate it temporarily...can't recall the exact conditions that I desired it just now.

However, for anyone coming from Win Expl who was used to that mode, this will solve that compatibility issue.
Yeah, I know it's popular. I would raise it from tweak to config level if all works as expected. It would be part of List Style so you could toggle it by a KS and it would be stored with FVS.

EDIT: ... if that's good. Maybe it's better to have it as a global setting in config?
(I personally would never use this setting so I have no preferences.)

Re: Not showing file extension

Posted: 05 Nov 2008 16:16
by j_c_hallgren
admin wrote:Yeah, I know it's popular. I would raise it from tweak to config level if all works as expected. It would be part of List Style so you could toggle it by a KS and it would be stored with FVS.

EDIT: ... if that's good. Maybe it's better to have it as a global setting in config?
Of the two choices, I'd lean to the List Style side, as that would lend itself to quicker on/off but still be somewhat out of the way from normal operation. Also, I believe that in Win Expl, it's part of the folder settings, so that would be most compatible.

I just added it to wiki, BTW.

Re: Not showing file extension

Posted: 05 Nov 2008 16:29
by TheQwerty
I agree it would probably be best as a List View option. It's also important to note in the documentation that this is NOT the same as what WE does. In WE the option is to "Hide extensions for known file types," where as XY is not making that classification.

I'm not sure if the current implementation with regards to renaming is going to appease those who really use this option in WE. I personally like that the option is only affecting how it is shown in the list and that renaming mode still shows the extension, but again this differs from WE.

In either case since I don't plan to have this enabled I'm not sure what behavior is really desired.

Re: Not showing file extension

Posted: 06 Nov 2008 18:19
by binocular222
Hey, Why all of you not interested in this improvement?
You can save some space in list view without Filenames' extension. For renaming, you have the whole column Ext for easily doing this job.

I think this would be a big improvement.

Re: Not showing file extension

Posted: 06 Nov 2008 18:37
by j_c_hallgren
binocular222 wrote:Hey, Why all of you not interested in this improvement?
Maybe...because most of us tend to think more of the name + ext as one field, rather than two? I almost never have the Ext col showing, and save list space that way, but having actual ext visible is critcal to know how I want to handle file.
I think this would be a big improvement.
That's why Don implemented it in the present form to make ppl who are used to other ways of doing it happy as well...You have tried it out already, right? It's been available for two days now.

Re: Not showing file extension

Posted: 06 Nov 2008 18:40
by TheQwerty
binocular222 wrote:Hey, Why all of you not interested in this improvement?
You can save some space in list view without Filenames' extension. For renaming, you have the whole column Ext for easily doing this job.
Well for me it's simply a matter of I almost exclusively use the List list view, so there isn't really a way for me to just look at the list and know an item's extension with this enabled.

In details view I might appreciate the pixels it would save, but since I rarely use it, it's not a big deal for me.


That said it might be worth considering making this (or adding) a more advanced condition of only hiding extension in Details View when the Ext column is visible. Such an option may make this useful to more people, no?

Re: Not showing file extension

Posted: 06 Nov 2008 20:30
by admin
binocular222 wrote:I think this would be a big improvement.
"would"? I have added it already!