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Slow to start in Windows 11 (since 26.40?)

Posted: 20 Oct 2024 16:38
by LindaLooUK
This isn't particularly important but I've noticed XYPlorer has started to take around 6 or 7 seconds to appear when I first click on it after booting into Windows. I think this has been the case since v26.50 or possibly v26.40. It's quicker when opening the app subsequently but I just wondered if there are any fairly 'obvious' settings I could check to help improve responsiveness.

I view the Navigation Pane, 2 explorer panes and a Preview pane. I don't use Paper folders or any scripts that I'm aware of.

Any ideas why it's now slower?

Re: Slow to start in Windows 11 (since 26.40?)

Posted: 20 Oct 2024 17:07
by highend
Execute this from the address bar, show the output:
text get("loadtimes");

Re: Slow to start in Windows 11 (since 26.40?)

Posted: 21 Oct 2024 13:14
by LindaLooUK
Thanks Highend.

Well, it seems a lot better now so quite what that was all about I don't know! Typical huh?! :roll:

Below are 2 reports. In each case I shut down my PC, rebooted, waited a while and then opened the app.

Report 1:
XY ver: XYplorer 26.50.0100 - Lifetime License Professional
OS: Windows 11 Pro, 64-bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621.4317 (10.0)
Loaded: 2024-10-20 21:00:38 in 1,433 ms
Threshold: 10 ms (shorter tasks are skipped below)

0 ms: 130 ms - Start Load
130 ms: 12 ms - Init Language
142 ms: 48 ms - Load Language
190 ms: 19 ms - Load Settings
212 ms: 40 ms - Init Controls
252 ms: 124 ms - Init Graphics
384 ms: 87 ms - Create Info Panel
471 ms: 41 ms - Set Interface Font
512 ms: 11 ms - Init Panes
523 ms: 15 ms - Init Tree
550 ms: 10 ms - Tab Icons
560 ms: 381 ms - Load Mini Tree
952 ms: 11 ms - Init UDC and KS
964 ms: 55 ms - Layout Bars
1,023 ms: 10 ms - Layout Tabs
1,037 ms: 41 ms - --- Show Window ---
1,084 ms: 62 ms - List 2 Browse: C:\Users\Linda\OneDrive\Our stuff\Gaming stuff\
1,153 ms: 113 ms - XY64 Init
1,272 ms: 119 ms - XYcopy Init
1,391 ms: 42 ms - Tree Check Subfolders Exist Late
1,433 ms: - Load Done

MiniTree: Rows=78, Nodes=438, Expanded=12
Tree Check Subfolders Exist: Yes
Icon Overlays (List, Tree, Network): Yes, No, No
Network on Startup: Browse=Yes, Reconnect=No, CacheServers=No
Command Line: "C:\Users\Linda\OneDrive\Our stuff\Gaming stuff"
Pane 1: Items=4/4, Pane 2: Items=4/4, Catalog: Items=1

Report 2:
XY ver: XYplorer 26.50.0100 - Lifetime License Professional
OS: Windows 11 Pro, 64-bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621.4317 (10.0)
Loaded: 2024-10-21 12:09:23 in 1,408 ms
Threshold: 10 ms (shorter tasks are skipped below)

0 ms: 107 ms - Start Load
107 ms: 12 ms - Init Language
119 ms: 44 ms - Load Language
163 ms: 19 ms - Load Settings
185 ms: 21 ms - Init Controls
206 ms: 144 ms - Init Graphics
350 ms: 28 ms - Init Tabs
378 ms: 61 ms - Create Info Panel
439 ms: 49 ms - Set Interface Font
496 ms: 10 ms - Init Tree
526 ms: 352 ms - Load Mini Tree
899 ms: 18 ms - List 2 Browse: C:\Users\Linda\OneDrive\Our stuff\Orders\
921 ms: 40 ms - XY64 Init
962 ms: 46 ms - Layout Bars
1,013 ms: 82 ms - Layout Tabs
1,098 ms: 146 ms - --- Show Window ---
1,245 ms: 121 ms - XYcopy Init
1,366 ms: 42 ms - Tree Check Subfolders Exist Late
1,408 ms: - Load Done

MiniTree: Rows=78, Nodes=438, Expanded=12
Tree Check Subfolders Exist: Yes
Icon Overlays (List, Tree, Network): Yes, No, No
Network on Startup: Browse=Yes, Reconnect=No, CacheServers=No
Command Line: "C:\Users\Linda\OneDrive\Our stuff\Orders"
Pane 1: Items=4/4, Pane 2: Items=12/12, Catalog: Items=1

Re: Slow to start in Windows 11 (since 26.40?)

Posted: 21 Oct 2024 13:27
by highend
If XY is on a HDD and additionally not excluded from the used antivirus engine I would say that these startup times aren't unusual.

Mine takes about half the time than yours but I use a locked mini tree, don't check for existence of subfolders in the tree, use SSDs only, no antivirus engine running, etc.

Re: Slow to start in Windows 11 (since 26.40?)

Posted: 21 Oct 2024 13:29
by admin
FYI, from v26.50.0101 onwards there can be a new last line (only shows if Content-Based Folder Icons are used):

Code: Select all

Content-Based Folder Icons: Yes

Re: Slow to start in Windows 11 (since 26.40?)

Posted: 21 Oct 2024 13:45
by LindaLooUK
Interesting. I have XYPlorer (and Windows) on a Samsung 990 Pro 2TB NVME drive which is fast.

I no longer use Norton AV - just the in-built Windows Defender but I'll see about optimising my system better by doing what you suggest Highend.

I'm not sure I understand your comment Admin! Sorry.

Re: Slow to start in Windows 11 (since 26.40?)

Posted: 21 Oct 2024 13:48
by admin
Content-Based Folder Icons will slow down startup a bit, that's why it's mentioned now in this place.

Re: Slow to start in Windows 11 (since 26.40?)

Posted: 21 Oct 2024 13:53
by highend
CTRL + Leftclick on: Menu - Help - Various Information...

Shows a lot of tipps to make XY as snappy as possible

Re: Slow to start in Windows 11 (since 26.40?)

Posted: 21 Oct 2024 17:54
by LindaLooUK
Thanks for the tips guys! :)