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Paper folders + subfolders + entry point

Posted: 22 Jul 2024 17:36
by Tau Svetvechnogo
Hello! When I started working with paper folders with a lot of files, I found that there is some inconvenience related to the fact that it is not possible to work normally with subdirectories of paper folders, there’s no convenient entry point, like you’re working with normal folders. It would also be convenient if you could place the files of paper folders directly next to the directory, where the files that are placed in paper folders are located and so you can log into these paper folders and their subfolders directly from there, without typing anything in the address bar, like "paper:"

Привет! Начав работать с бумажными папками с большим количеством файлов, обнаружил, что есть некоторое неудобство, связанное с тем, что нет возможности нормально работать с подкаталогами бумажных папок, нет удобной точки входа, словно работаешь с обычными папками. Ещё будет удобно, если файлы бумажных папок можно будет размещать непосредственно рядом с каталогом, где находятся файлы, которые размещены в бумажных папках и чтобы можно было войти в эти бумажные папки и их подпапки прямо оттуда, ничего не вбивая в строке адреса, типа "paper:"

Re: Paper folders + subfolders + entry point

Posted: 22 Jul 2024 18:36
by Horst
How can the files in a Paper folder be placed near their location ?

What about using "Open in Other Pane" from the context menu of a folder entry in a Paper folder.
I only miss assigning a shortcut like Ctrl+Right to it.

Re: Paper folders + subfolders + entry point

Posted: 22 Jul 2024 20:51
by Tau Svetvechnogo
Horst wrote: 22 Jul 2024 18:36 How can the files in a Paper folder be placed near their location ?
The translation program didn't translate my idea accurately. The idea is this - there is a catalog with text files, with the help of paper folders these files are divided into groups (genres). If I move this catalog to another computer, the paper folder files with txt extension placed in Xyplorer catalog will not be transferred automatically, I will have to do it manually. Of course, you can do it this way. But it is not quite convenient, it is much easier if the paper folder files will be placed in any place convenient for the user, for example, as in my case, in the directory with text files, which I intend to put into these paper folders. And without subfolders, normal work with multiple files in different paper folders becomes not very convenient. It's probably convenient for most people, but I thought I'd suggest improvements anyway.

Программа-переводчик не точно перевёл мою мысль. Идея вот в чём - есть каталог с текстовыми файлами, с помощью бумажных папок эти файлы разделены по группам (жанрам). Если я перенесу этот каталог на другой компьютер, то файлы бумажных папок с расширением txt, размещённые в каталоге Xyplorer не будут перенесены автоматически, придётся это делать вручную. Конечно, можно и так. Но это не вполне удобно, куда проще, если файлы бумажных папок будут размещены в любом удобном пользователю месте, например, как в моём случае, в каталоге с текстовыми файлами, которые я намерен разложить по этим бумажным папкам. И без подпапок нормальная работа с множеством файлов в разных бумажных папках становится не очень удобной. Вероятно, большинству удобно, но я всё равно решил предложить улучшения.

Re: Paper folders + subfolders + entry point

Posted: 23 Jul 2024 10:08
by admin
You mean that the file paths in the paper folder file should be resolved relative to the location of the paper folder file?

Re: Paper folders + subfolders + entry point

Posted: 24 Jul 2024 11:36
by jaywalker32
The way I'm understanding it is he wants the paper folder files (.txt) to be created wherever you want, not just in the default paper: folder. Which is actually the case right now, since you can create the .txt file anywhere.

But I also had this wish, whereby you cannot just double click on the .txt file to make it navigate 'into' the paper folder. Which I solved using a custom file association (CFA). I save all my paper folders with *.paper.txt extension, and the CFA opens these files as paper folders, instead of in the text editor.

edit: the CFA I'm using is

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*.paper.txt>goto "paper:<curitem>";
One small nitpick I have is that you while you can go 'back' from the paper folder, you cannot go 'Up' into the original parent folder. Going 'up' puts you in 'This PC'. Which also means you cannot 'dbl click in whitespace' to go up to the parent folder.

Re: Paper folders + subfolders + entry point

Posted: 24 Jul 2024 15:07
by klownboy
When I read Tau Svetvechnogo's post my first impression was hey, what he's asking for paper folders is something very similar to what you (Don) did for thumbnail caches a few years back. The thumbnail cache can be located in one single location (the standard for most people), or you can located them in the root of the associated drive where your images are located, or you can have the cache files in the actual folder where your images are located. It all depends on your thumbnail cache(s) setting in Configuration. I remember it wasn't fun changing the thumbnail maintenance script to recognize the different possibilities.

Re: Paper folders + subfolders + entry point

Posted: 27 Jul 2024 14:24
by admin
jaywalker32 wrote: 24 Jul 2024 11:36 edit: the CFA I'm using is

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*.paper.txt>goto "paper:<curitem>";
One small nitpick I have is that you while you can go 'back' from the paper folder, you cannot go 'Up' into the original parent folder. Going 'up' puts you in 'This PC'. Which also means you cannot 'dbl click in whitespace' to go up to the parent folder.
Yeah, I like that CFA. The nitpick will be history in the next beta.

Re: Paper folders + subfolders + entry point

Posted: 27 Jul 2024 14:26
by admin
klownboy wrote: 24 Jul 2024 15:07 When I read Tau Svetvechnogo's post my first impression was hey, what he's asking for paper folders is something very similar to what you (Don) did for thumbnail caches a few years back. The thumbnail cache can be located in one single location (the standard for most people), or you can located them in the root of the associated drive where your images are located, or you can have the cache files in the actual folder where your images are located. It all depends on your thumbnail cache(s) setting in Configuration. I remember it wasn't fun changing the thumbnail maintenance script to recognize the different possibilities.
Yes, that is what I understood. And it will work that way. I don't expect the fun to diminish this time.

Re: Paper folders + subfolders + entry point

Posted: 28 Jul 2024 09:24
by jaywalker32
admin wrote: 27 Jul 2024 14:24 Yeah, I like that CFA. The nitpick will be history in the next beta.
Tested and working. Thanks! :tup: