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Don, that's a great idea on allowing the hover box to bounce from one file to another via the keyboard. To increase its value, could you come up with a CID that would open the hover box on a selected file provided it's hoverboxable. I think it could be a quick and dirty replacement for floating preview - for quick viewing of any file that's compatible with hover box - especially now with hover box in motion via the keyboard.

That would only work when the mouse pointer is in a position where it triggers the hover box anyway. So... why?

Yeah, I suppose I was thinking you could invoke the Hover Box on the focused item without the mouse pointer being on the icon to initiate it. And that, probably stems from my old desire to move along the MDBU with the arrow keys.

Yes, your old desire, I know I know.

But I will add something: You can close a HB (or file info tip) by ESC. What's missing is the reverse action: open an HB (or file info tip) by some keyboard combo. After .0100 ...

Great Don, thanks.

Hi Don, on the latest beta v24.30.0102, I don't seem to be getting any action from "Trigger Mouse Move" assignment. I first tried assigning it to shift-esc as discussed in the beta notes and then to Numpad3. In both cases nothing happens in any situation whether the hover box is showing or not and regardless of mouse position on or near the file icon or in list or detail view. Is it considered a work in progress?

Hmm, works fine here. Did you already try in fresh?

admin wrote: ↑17 Apr 2023 12:45 Did you already try in fresh?

I did now. I assigned Numpad 3 to "Trigger Mouse Move" under Category: Miscellaneous > Keyboard Shortcuts. I still get no result once-so-ever. I disabled type-ahead find and disabled and suspended AHK just in case they may be affecting it, but it made no difference. I may still be a bit confused as to what is supposed to happen when the assigned key is pressed. I'm not sure what else could be affecting it. Maybe I'm missing something. Is there something else I should be doing, (e.g., a script) besides the keyboard assignment for "Trigger Mouse Move", like moving to a control position (e.g., icon or filename) or something else that triggers the Hover box?

Edit: The other features of that beta all seem to be working fine, like pressing space to select the file currently being hovered.

It's can be the Windows version, or the mouse type. I'll check that later...

What about the other users?

OK, I'm on Windows 11 Home, version 22H2, build 22621.1555

Hi Don, it's working with v24.30.0104. Hover box returns after removing it via escape. Of course, the mouse cursor has to remain on the icon at all times (or filename as applicable depending on your Configuration setting). It's not going to come back if you've moved the cursor of the icon/filename.

Don, I'm noticing in Hover box movement (using lates v24.30.0105 though I'm sure it was the same previously), when I move the HB along using arrow keys, if I come to a text file, HB displays the text but pressing the arrow keys will not continue the HB movement to the next file whether it's another text file or whether it's an image file. It simply stops and you can move further along in either direction. This also happens when you come to zip file and other file types like exe. If I come to a zip file that gives a message "Cannot decode" then it does allow you to continue moving the HB along. If you start the hover box on a text file (e.g., txt, xys, ahk, etc.) it displays the HB but does not allow you to move along.

Yes, it was mentioned here under Conditions in the last sentence:

v24.30.0001 - 2023-04-13 17:36
+ Hover Box: Now you can move the Hover Box to another item using the arrow keys
(Left, Right, Up, Down, PageUp, PageDown).
Conditions:
- Hover Box is currently showing.
- But it's not showing a text preview and Hover Box scrolling is enabled (in that
case those keys control the scrolling).

Turn off scrolling (while HB is hsowing press R to cycle scrolling/scaling) and it should work as you wish.

OK Don, thanks, I missed that. I'll turn HB scrolling off for now. I wouldn't scroll much in a hover box anyway.

How about encountering exe files though? It would be nice when you were arrowing/hovering along on JPGs, if you encountered an exe file be able to continue with a displayed hover box if the next file was an image. I suppose it's not possible since the hover box is lost on the exe and you can't get it back to hover on the next file (an image)? I suppose that would be similar to attempting to invoke hover box on a focused or selected file with the cursor no longer on the icon/filename.

The next beta will address this issue (and also the scrolling related issue) successfully.