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Outlook 365 mail drag-drop name <from> field not working for sender outside organization

Posted: 20 May 2022 10:14
by vipin
recently I noticed that when I drag a email from Outlook365 to xyplorer 23.00.0300, the <from> field is not set. instead only <from> appears in filename. This behaviour is only for external senders. Xyplorer is able to extract the name of sender from my organization.

Re: Outlook 365 mail drag-drop name <from> field not working for sender outside organization

Posted: 24 May 2022 12:58
by admin
I don't have Outlook365 here at the moment. What is an "external sender"?

Re: Outlook 365 mail drag-drop name <from> field not working for sender outside organization

Posted: 24 May 2022 13:26
by vipin
External Sender means someone who is not in my organization. XYplorer is able to extract <from> only for someone who is within same organization.
This was working fine some months back for all senders (internal or external) but now something seems to be changed.

Re: Outlook 365 mail drag-drop name <from> field not working for sender outside organization

Posted: 24 May 2022 13:55
by admin
Aha. Can you confirm the latter by trying an older version from the freezer?: https://www.xyplorer.com/freezer.php

Re: Outlook 365 mail drag-drop name <from> field not working for sender outside organization

Posted: 24 May 2022 14:34
by vipin
Same Issue till version 22 & 21, want me to check even older version?

Re: Outlook 365 mail drag-drop name <from> field not working for sender outside organization

Posted: 24 May 2022 15:58
by admin
You said "This was working fine some months back for all senders ..." so now it looks like it was Windows or Outlook365 that changed, not XYplorer.

I'll check that later with a machine that has Outlook365. Is that Windows 10?

Re: Outlook 365 mail drag-drop name <from> field not working for sender outside organization

Posted: 24 May 2022 16:04
by vipin
Yes this is windows 10

Re: Outlook 365 mail drag-drop name <from> field not working for sender outside organization

Posted: 25 May 2022 14:52
by admin
The next beta (v23.10.0004) will print the full header of the dropped message to the debug log. We can then see if the info we want is there and on which line.

Your steps:

1. download and run beta v23.10.0004 from this forum: viewtopic.php?p=199577#p199577
2. drop the message onto XYplorer
3. paste dlog; into the XYplorer address bar and press ENTER
4. copy & paste the return into this thread

Re: Outlook 365 mail drag-drop name <from> field not working for sender outside organization

Posted: 25 May 2022 15:16
by vipin
XYplorer 23.10.0004 - Windows 10 Enterprise, 64-bit, Release 2009, Build 19042.1706 - 2022-05-25 17:12:36
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Re: Outlook 365 mail drag-drop name <from> field not working for sender outside organization

Posted: 25 May 2022 15:16
by vipin
I have replaced the originating organization name with **** for privacy reasons.

Re: Outlook 365 mail drag-drop name <from> field not working for sender outside organization

Posted: 25 May 2022 15:24
by admin
Ok, do you see the sender outside organization somewhere in those lines?

Re: Outlook 365 mail drag-drop name <from> field not working for sender outside organization

Posted: 25 May 2022 15:35
by vipin
0 - 2022-05-25 17:12:25.978 --- Header Line 23: btv1==144a5641f6d==muzaffar@*****.ae designates 83.111.105.4

Re: Outlook 365 mail drag-drop name <from> field not working for sender outside organization

Posted: 25 May 2022 15:36
by vipin
0 - 2022-05-25 17:12:25.978 --- Header Line 28: x-sender="btv1==144a5641f6d==muzaffar@****.ae";

Re: Outlook 365 mail drag-drop name <from> field not working for sender outside organization

Posted: 25 May 2022 15:43
by admin
So you want that email address to fill the <from> field, right?

The data looks as if this is the only email address in it. Is it present already in this line?:
[code]0 - 2022-05-25 17:12:25.978 --- Header Line 13: smtp.mailfrom=*****.ae; dkim=none (message not signed)[/code]
Here it would be easy to parse: smtp.mailfrom=here;

UPDATE: well, probably not. I would probably rather take this line with x-sender=:

Code: Select all

0 - 2022-05-25 17:12:25.978 --- Header Line 28: x-sender="btv1==144a5641f6d==muzaffar@****.ae";
So you want the <from> field to be filled with btv1==144a5641f6d==muzaffar@****.ae?

Re: Outlook 365 mail drag-drop name <from> field not working for sender outside organization

Posted: 26 May 2022 08:31
by vipin
Yes, <from> field should have "muzaffar"