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Toolbar button size with 3840x2160 resolution

Posted: 06 Nov 2020 16:26
by Bee
I recently bought a screen with a 3840x2160 resolution, but scaled up to a 150%, because otherwise things are just too small. The problem is that the XYplorer toolbar icons are now either too small or too big (and blurry), depending on whether I choose the large buttons or extra large buttons. When I try to change the value to something between 1 and 2 via the ini-file, I can get the icons to an acceptable size, but they are still fairly blurry.

Is there any way around that? It seems like the toolbar icons don't really support getting blown up to a bigger size.

Thank you.

Re: Toolbar button size with 3840x2160 resolution

Posted: 06 Nov 2020 17:14
by amirvf
That's exactly the same issue I'm facing at the moment.
At the moment only 3 sizes are allowed:
1- 16×16
2- 32×32
3- 48×48

To make it 4k Friendly two modifications in the toolbar seems necessary:
1. Allowing higher resolutions for icons in the toolbar
2. Allowing toolbar icons in Groups (with a more distinct separator) and Minimum of Two Rows (like what we see in Microsoft Office products).

Re: Toolbar button size with 3840x2160 resolution

Posted: 09 Nov 2020 18:14
by Bee
Any ideas?

Re: Toolbar button size with 3840x2160 resolution

Posted: 10 Nov 2020 01:31
by amirvf
Bee wrote: 09 Nov 2020 18:14Any ideas?
Take a look at this thread. It might be helpful for you: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=22333

Re: Toolbar button size with 3840x2160 resolution

Posted: 10 Nov 2020 17:54
by admin
amirvf wrote: 06 Nov 2020 17:14 That's exactly the same issue I'm facing at the moment.
At the moment only 3 sizes are allowed:
1- 16×16
2- 32×32
3- 48×48
No, you can zoom up the Toolbar as much as you like (up to 8x the "large buttons size") using Ctrl+Shift+Wheel right on the toolbar.

Re: Toolbar button size with 3840x2160 resolution

Posted: 11 Nov 2020 20:20
by Bee
Thank you, amirvf, for pointing me to the other thread. It sounds like 4k resolutions have no priority right now, but if you ever finish reworking those icons, let me know!

Re: Toolbar button size with 3840x2160 resolution

Posted: 11 Nov 2020 20:29
by admin
"no priority" is a little harsh. This will be tackled step by step. I'm just working on making the fine lines more visible.

Re: Toolbar button size with 3840x2160 resolution

Posted: 11 Nov 2020 20:40
by Bee
Sorry, didn't mean to be harsh, it's just what I took
admin wrote: 11 Nov 2020 16:27But note that I get very few complaints about the icons at the moment. 4K is only just beginning.
to mean.

But I get that icons are a lot of work, and thank you for being on it :).

Re: Toolbar button size with 3840x2160 resolution

Posted: 12 Nov 2020 23:34
by kbleft
admin wrote: 10 Nov 2020 17:54
amirvf wrote: 06 Nov 2020 17:14 That's exactly the same issue I'm facing at the moment.
At the moment only 3 sizes are allowed:
1- 16×16
2- 32×32
3- 48×48
No, you can zoom up the Toolbar as much as you like (up to 8x the "large buttons size") using Ctrl+Shift+Wheel right on the toolbar.
I'm working on a laptop with a high resolution screen. I would like to zoom the Toolbar icons (a little, not 8x), but I don't have the "wheel" part of the combo, just a trackpad. I can't get the combo to work with the trackpad gesture. Is there another way to accomplish the zoom - e.g., a tweak, script, etc.? Or do I need to plug in a mouse?

Also, where is the zoom setting for the Toolbar stored? Is it a setting that gets backed up when I back up the application data folder?

Re: Toolbar button size with 3840x2160 resolution

Posted: 13 Nov 2020 00:28
by highend
It's a tweak:

Code: Select all

; Tweak: zoom factor for main toolbar (0.5 - 8)
ToolbarZoom=1

Re: Toolbar button size with 3840x2160 resolution

Posted: 13 Nov 2020 00:33
by kbleft
Thanks, highend. That's what I was missing.

Are the tweaks catalogued anywhere in the forum or on the website? I haven't been able to find a reference for them (similar to the scripting commands reference in the Help file).

Re: Toolbar button size with 3840x2160 resolution

Posted: 13 Nov 2020 08:11
by admin
kbleft wrote: 13 Nov 2020 00:33 Are the tweaks catalogued anywhere in the forum or on the website? I haven't been able to find a reference for them (similar to the scripting commands reference in the Help file).
No, but you can do 2 things:

1) Scan the change log (https://www.xyplorer.com/download/History.txt) for the word "tweak". 99% of the tweaks are documented in that file.

2) Scan XYplorer.ini for ; Tweak . Most tweaks have this comment line right before them, often with a short explanation.

Re: Toolbar button size with 3840x2160 resolution

Posted: 13 Nov 2020 19:13
by mumajs
Tweaks are always good....

but imagine new user who install trial version and something is not as he wants. So the user opens settings and is trying havily for many hours to change the behavior, but it does not work and there is not any settings. How many users ask the question in forum? How many users ask and how many click on uninstall...
There is of course tweak, but how the user can know which one? There is no way. I guess there should be interface in settings for these tweaks. Maybe list of them and some explanation and how to set them.

Re: Toolbar button size with 3840x2160 resolution

Posted: 13 Nov 2020 19:23
by amirvf
mumajs wrote: 13 Nov 2020 19:13 Tweaks are always good....

but imagine new user who install trial version and something is not as he wants. So the user opens settings and is trying havily for many hours to change the behavior, but it does not work and there is not any settings. How many users ask the question in forum? How many users ask and how many click on uninstall...
There is of course tweak, but how the user can know which one? There is no way. I guess there should be interface in settings for these tweaks. Maybe list of them and some explanation and how to set them.
I agree :tup:
There should be clear guide to tweaks in the UI.

Re: Toolbar button size with 3840x2160 resolution

Posted: 18 Nov 2020 18:47
by admin
Well, no. :)

XY has many hundreds of settings. Tweaks are a hardcore expansion of those settings without bloating the interface. Lifting them all into UI makes them pointless.

If a tweak is important enough for general users I will raise it to the UI. Happened before and will happen again.