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I'm loving many of the new additions/changes to Xyplorer, but there is one thing I would love to see. I don't know if you have used Directory Opus before, but if not I will lay out one *very* useful rename feature it has for you.
See the thing is, if you are doing an inline rename of a file, and include a backslash in the name, it will create a folder and directly move the renamed file there. To best explain, consider the following:

You have a file named myfile.txt stored in C:\My\Files. Doing a inline rename of this file and typing something like AreNowHere\mymovedfile.txt would rename and move the file to: C:\My\Files\AreNowHere\mymovedfile.txt
This works the same for folders as well. To take a good example from my daily usage of this feature, consider that I have a folder of mp3's stored like this: \Music\The Flaming Lips - The Soft Bulletin - 1999. This was the way I used to store my music previously, but as my collection grew I discovered that this was making it too hard finding what I was looking for so I changed my scheme. My new scheme is now structured like this (example using the previously mentioned folder):

\ Music \ F \ Flaming Lips, The \ Soft Bulletin, The [1999] \

etc...

With the regular file renaming operations, this would involve several renames and copy/paste operations to do. With the method I'm asking for, I could do this by simply renaming the folder and including the slashes where I wanted a new folder to be created. It also allows to use ".." to go up one folder, so let's say you have the following folders:

\ Pictures \ Sorted \
\ Pictures \ Not Sorted Yet \ Imported March 4th 2008 \


Now inline renaming the "Imported March 4th 2008" folder above like "..\Sorted\Summer 2007" would give you this: "\Pictures\Sorted\Summer 2007\"


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This really is a timesaver for me so I'd love to see it implemented in XY (Hope I managed to explain on how this works..)

Dirhael wrote:(Hope I managed to explain on how this works..)

Yes, you did describe this very well! Much better than some wishes here...and I can see how it could easily be useful in saving steps.

I also see it vaguely similar to what happens when you're installing software and it asks where to put shortcuts and you can create a new folder by putting in the new name with backslash(es).

j_c_hallgren wrote:

Dirhael wrote:(Hope I managed to explain on how this works..)

Yes, you did describe this very well! Much better than some wishes here...and I can see how it could easily be useful in saving steps.

I also see it vaguely similar to what happens when you're installing software and it asks where to put shortcuts and you can create a new folder by putting in the new name with backslash(es).

Indeed, it is quite similar. The main difference is that this works on existing files and folders. Time saved can quickly add up, so I'm always on the lookout for things that increases my productivity

You can achieve a similar thing by this:
You can assign a shortcut to "Move Here to New Subfolder" (via Tools>Customize Keyboard Shortcuts>Miscellaneous>File operation).
Its not exactly the same thing as you cannot rename a file here (but maybe using scripting one can combine rename and the above command).
Anyway, I have been using "Move Here to New Subfolder" very often and find it more powerful than Dopus because you can move several files at once. And ofcourse you can use ..\ to move those files to parent folder.

serendipity wrote:You can achieve a similar thing by this:
You can assign a shortcut to "Move Here to New Subfolder" (via Tools>Customize Keyboard Shortcuts>Miscellaneous>File operation).
Its not exactly the same thing as you cannot rename a file here (but maybe using scripting one can combine rename and the above command).
Anyway, I have been using "Move Here to New Subfolder" very often and find it more powerful than Dopus because you can move several files at once. And ofcourse you can use ..\ to move those files to parent folder.

It's not the same though as even though that command is useful it doesn't really give me the same options as the inline move/rename functionality would.

The Dopus-like renaming would allow me to rename a file like abcd.efg to be stored as a\b\c\d.efg is a single simple operation and in the situations where I would use that functionality I don't really see how you could possibly do it faster in any other way.

Thanks for trying to help though, I'll be looking into what I can do by scripting if this doesn't get implemented

Oh and just to mention it, what you are describing in your post is easily done in dopus as well should you need to do so...but that's probably best left for another topic.

Dirhael wrote:Oh and just to mention it, what you are describing in your post is easily done in dopus as well should you need to do so...but that's probably best left for another topic.

Just so you know, size=7 (tiny) text is almost unreadable here...that's why I made it size=9 on my replies...

The other thing is: Move Here to New SubFolder, as I know it, doesn't apply when all you want to do is rename and move it to an existing folder, which the rename\folder syntax would allow, right?

Dirhael wrote:See the thing is, if you are doing an inline rename of a file, and include a backslash in the name, it will create a folder and directly move the renamed file there.

This will work only for one file at a time, right?

j_c_hallgren wrote:Just so you know, size=7 (tiny) text is almost unreadable here...that's why I made it size=9 on my replies...

Ah, didn't think of that I just made it tiny as I didn't think it added anything useful to the topic at hand...but making it unreadable wasn't really what I had in mind.

j_c_hallgren wrote: The other thing is: Move Here to New SubFolder, as I know it, doesn't apply when all you want to do is rename and move it to an existing folder, which the rename\folder syntax would allow, right?

Correct Or well, it can move files or folder to an already existing folder but it doesn't deal with the whole rename-part of the operation.

admin wrote:

Dirhael wrote:See the thing is, if you are doing an inline rename of a file, and include a backslash in the name, it will create a folder and directly move the renamed file there.

This will work only for one file at a time, right?

Yes, only a single item at a time

Dirhael wrote:

admin wrote:

Dirhael wrote:See the thing is, if you are doing an inline rename of a file, and include a backslash in the name, it will create a folder and directly move the renamed file there.

This will work only for one file at a time, right?

Yes, only a single item at a time

Well, this should be very easy to implement. You can have hopes...

admin wrote:

Dirhael wrote:

admin wrote:

Dirhael wrote:See the thing is, if you are doing an inline rename of a file, and include a backslash in the name, it will create a folder and directly move the renamed file there.

This will work only for one file at a time, right?

Yes, only a single item at a time

Well, this should be very easy to implement. You can have hopes...

Donald, you sir are my brand new hero

Thanks for considering it!

Dirhael wrote:

admin wrote:

Dirhael wrote:

admin wrote:

Dirhael wrote:See the thing is, if you are doing an inline rename of a file, and include a backslash in the name, it will create a folder and directly move the renamed file there.

This will work only for one file at a time, right?

Yes, only a single item at a time

Well, this should be very easy to implement. You can have hopes...

Donald, you sir are my brand new hero

Thanks for considering it!

But after 7.0, of course.

Dirhael wrote:

Okay, I did it.

admin wrote:

Dirhael wrote:

Okay, I did it.

Already?!

*goes testing*

Yes! It works exactly as I had hoped for! Thank you very much for implementing this, it will make file management even smoother than every before with Xyplorer