Audio Preview - Strange behaviour

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Audio Preview - Strange behaviour

Post by cs759 » 06 Nov 2019 02:00

Hi,

I've been trying to get the Audio preview thing working, and it does generally apart from this problem.
When previewing the first file it plays, but when I switch to the next file the volume suddenly lowers, then the next file and the volume lowers even more and so on until it got down to zero and now I can't get it to come on again at all.

This is just in xyplorer, all volumes are fine in other programs.
Version 20.50

I've obviously tried restarting xyplorer, tried rebooting, nothing brings it back, so I tried a clean install (just downloaded the current beta 20.50.0.113), turned on the settings so it would do audio preview, now I have sound, but it's still doing the volume lowering thing.
After raising the volume manually, it will sometimes keep that level, but if I restart xyplorer, it does it all over again.

I did a short video of it so you can see (you can't hear sound on the video because I only use headphones but you can see the levels changing).



Edit: can't attach video, even 5MB too large
google drive shareable link https://drive.google.com/open?id=1pIRxX ... 4kwoYXMmez


P.S. xyplorer is a wonderful program, I couldn't live without. Many times I think I wish it could do this or that, so I hunt around and it can already do it, I just have to turn on the setting.

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Re: Audio Preview - Strange behaviour

Post by admin » 06 Nov 2019 11:17

Strange indeed! Definitely does not happen here. Does it happen with all sound files, or only MP3?

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Re: Audio Preview - Strange behaviour

Post by cs759 » 06 Nov 2019 13:55

I've tried 3 file types, mp3 wav and flac. It happens on mp3 and wav, but flacs fail to play at all (don't know why but thats a different problem).

I've just tried it on a different laptop, same happens. It maybe that I have some unusual combination of audio preview settings in xyplorer, as it only started happening on the other laptop when I added the audio preview settings I've been using.


[*]For you to see it happening (hopefully, unless there's something abnormal to me on both my laptops), I've saved to zip, the xyplorer folder+xyplorer.ini, and also the sound files I was testing with so you can try it.

[*]I have xyplorer setup so I hover over the icon and the preview plays.

[*]To download the test files mentioned above
[REMOVED]


There is a windows sound setting that reduces volume by 80% on phone calls (who ever uses that)
search > change system sounds > communication tab
I've have set that to 'do nothing' but it doesn't solve the problem.

BTW I have Windows 10 pro x64 latest updates

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Re: Audio Preview - Strange behaviour

Post by admin » 06 Nov 2019 16:57

Thanks for the perfect test package (apart from the license key, could have done without that ;)), tried the files on latest Win8.1 and latest Win10: Nothing. All fine here. :|
cs759 wrote:
06 Nov 2019 13:55
I have xyplorer setup so I hover over the icon and the preview plays.
Very nice! (How many apps support a zero-click audio preview?)

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Re: Audio Preview - Strange behaviour

Post by cs759 » 06 Nov 2019 20:44

admin wrote:
06 Nov 2019 16:57
apart from the license key
:shock: Sorry about that, didn't occur to me. I should have emailed to you instead.
admin wrote:
06 Nov 2019 16:57
Nothing. All fine here.
Thanks for trying anyway. I've done some further research and many others are having the dreaded automatic volume turn down problem. It seems it's to do with Realtek/Dolby Skype Narrator etc and soundcard settings. I've tried practically everything and it still does it. I guess you're on a desktop and don't have all this other audio interference.
cs759 wrote:
06 Nov 2019 13:55
Very nice! (How many apps support a zero-click audio preview?)
Actually my music sequencers do FL Studio and Reaper but they're navigation is a pain, and as you say I doubt any File managers do, and if they did they'd still be missing all the other features.

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Re: Audio Preview - Strange behaviour

Post by cs759 » 07 Nov 2019 01:09

I've found out a sort of work around.

It doesn't happen if the preview pane is open.
It doesn't happen if the preview pane is closed, as long as the preview pane was open before.
It doesn't happen if you just open and close the preview pane once after starting xyplorer.

I suppose the simplest thing is just to leave the preview pane open with it dragged over to use as little amount of space as possible.

It's strange that no other programs do it, like mpc-hc or audacity, which is what made me originally think it was an xyplorer problem.

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Re: Audio Preview - Strange behaviour

Post by admin » 07 Nov 2019 11:02

Really weird. Nobody ever reported this apart from you.

"It doesn't happen if the preview pane is open." ... just open, or also used for the preview?

UPDATE: Anyway, I revised some parts of the code. It might be fixed in the next beta.

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Re: Audio Preview - Strange behaviour

Post by cs759 » 07 Nov 2019 12:05

admin wrote:
07 Nov 2019 11:02
"It doesn't happen if the preview pane is open."
Yes, can't make it happen at all. Tried many times.
admin wrote:
07 Nov 2019 11:02
... just open
Not sure sure what you mean by that.
admin wrote:
07 Nov 2019 11:02
or also used for the preview?
I should say, that in order to try and make this problem go away, I went into windows 'add/remove windows features' and removed windows media player (I don't like it, don't use it anyway), but it didn't change anything apart from the windows media player gui disappeared from the xyplorer preview pane, but sound still happens all the same, and the behaviour seems exactly the same.



Quite simply, all I have to do to stop it happening is:-

either - do CTRL+F11 twice after starting XYplorer to open and close the preview window. Doesn't happen at all in that case.

or - do CTRL+F11 once after starting XYplorer to open the preview window and leave it open. Doesn't happen at all in that case either.

if - I start XYplorer with preview window closed and never open it, the problem always happens without fail. Tried it many times. Although in this case, if you repeatedly keep dragging the windows mixer volume slider up to max, it does seem to stay there after a while, but this is inconsistent.

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Re: Audio Preview - Strange behaviour

Post by admin » 07 Nov 2019 12:12

Looking at the code I fail to see any connection between preview pane and this issue. Really weird.

Anyway, let's see whether the next beta fixes it...

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Re: Audio Preview - Strange behaviour

Post by brianhuahin » 08 Nov 2019 07:40

Hi
sorry to report I have a similar problem. On hover over the icon the sound is all ways very low.
Plays ok in the preview panel.
Changed the music player from Bee to VLC and Windows media and still the same.

Regards Brian
Using 20.50.0200 and Windows 10 64 bit

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Re: Audio Preview - Strange behaviour

Post by admin » 08 Nov 2019 09:39

Does it look like this in the Preview Tab?
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Re: Audio Preview - Strange behaviour

Post by cs759 » 09 Nov 2019 19:57

admin wrote:
08 Nov 2019 09:39
Does it look like this in the Preview Tab?
No, not even close in my case. It's just a windows media player gui.

Here are some screen shots.

1 just windows volume mixer open
2 now open xyplorer (no preview window)
3 now autoplay preview an mp3 (no preview window) volume lowers
4 now with preview window open (it wouldnt autoplay, i had to press the button), volume doesnt lower
5 now after closing the preview window, volume doesnt lower (I hadn't raised it again from the last time it lowered)
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Re: Audio Preview - Strange behaviour

Post by Borut » 09 Nov 2019 22:45

BTW, I was today also very surprised to see the MS MediaPlayer GUI in the preview tab for audio files. I thought that it is perhaps some new feature that I missed to read about. I would very much prefer the old XY GUI there. (Experienced under Win7.)
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Re: Audio Preview - Strange behaviour

Post by admin » 10 Nov 2019 10:01

What you are showing is the Preview Panel (Ctrl+F11), whereas I'm talking about the Preview Tab (F12). Nothing was changed here for a long time.

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Re: Audio Preview - Strange behaviour

Post by Borut » 10 Nov 2019 22:07

I am talking about the preview tab. It is not the initial problem of this thread, but where is the old GUI?
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