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It would be nice just to right-click a folder in the tree and directly open the Manage User-Defined Commands dialog in order to create a GoTo UDC with the path prefilled.

Update:

Or maybe just add a new menu-item on the context menu:

Assign to UDC with sub menus or popup

GoTo - UDC
Move To - UDC
Copy To - UDC
Backup To -UDC

Yes, would be practical, but the menu is already too big. I would welcome an idea to make it shorter!

Or why not use a keyboard shortcut and maybe a toolbar button which does the same thing? instead of using the context-menu...

admin wrote:

Yes, would be practical, but the menu is already too big. I would welcome an idea to make it shorter!

This is a concept idea which could possibly help trigger an idea.. The idea is to speed up the identification of choice. Each major menu is restricted as practical to about 6 entries so only the major options are shown. Further options are abbreviated as a guide of availability.

Selecting the main action cascades, as now the options to refine further choice.

Most options are seen as available in the short list horizontally! Spacing makes this clearer)

Thus in the case of File menu


Open [Selected (ENTER), Arg, Foc (CTL ENTER)]
Copy [To >, Here Cpy, Here As (CTL+S), Suff Nu (CTL+D), Suff Dt, Suff Dt Mod]
Move [To > ]
Delete [Del (DEL), Del No Rcy, Del skp lck]
Rename [Ren (F2), Ren Spc >]
Misc [Clip >, Bck Up>, Prop, Prev, Settings>]
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Thus in the case of Edit menu

Edit [Cut, Copy, Paste, Pst Spcl >]
Move/Copy [Move To, Copy To, Bckup To)
New [New >, Items >, ShrtCt, Path]
Select [Slct All, DeSlct All, Inv Sel, Sel Fltr, Sel Types, All Fls]
Find [Files, Now, Rpt lst srch, Srch Tmplts, Show Itms in Br]
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Hopefully meaningful abbreviations show the further options with > indicating even more at that level

The idea is to make the menu clean and simple and make choice easy. As we all read right to left, the further options become immediately clear.

Well, since there is already a UDC toolbar button where one can right click to navigate to "go to", "open" etc, why not trigger a prefilled path if there is anything selected in the list?
I mean, if i select program files in the list and right-click on UDC button and click Go to, then UDC opens with "C:\Program Files\" prefilled in location field.

graham wrote:admin wrote:

Yes, would be practical, but the menu is already too big. I would welcome an idea to make it shorter!

This is a concept idea which could possibly help trigger an idea.. The idea is to speed up the identification of choice. Each major menu is restricted as practical to about 6 entries so only the major options are shown. Further options are abbreviated as a guide of availability.

Selecting the main action cascades, as now the options to refine further choice.

Most options are seen as available in the short list horizontally! Spacing makes this clearer)

Thus in the case of File menu


Open [Selected (ENTER), Arg, Foc (CTL ENTER)]
Copy [To >, Here Cpy, Here As (CTL+S), Suff Nu (CTL+D), Suff Dt, Suff Dt Mod]
Move [To > ]
Delete [Del (DEL), Del No Rcy, Del skp lck]
Rename [Ren (F2), Ren Spc >]
Misc [Clip >, Bck Up>, Prop, Prev, Settings>]
--------

Thus in the case of Edit menu

Edit [Cut, Copy, Paste, Pst Spcl >]
Move/Copy [Move To, Copy To, Bckup To)
New [New >, Items >, ShrtCt, Path]
Select [Slct All, DeSlct All, Inv Sel, Sel Fltr, Sel Types, All Fls]
Find [Files, Now, Rpt lst srch, Srch Tmplts, Show Itms in Br]
-----------

Hopefully meaningful abbreviations show the further options with > indicating even more at that level

The idea is to make the menu clean and simple and make choice easy. As we all read right to left, the further options become immediately clear.

I like the idea of reducing them to 6 entries, that's very "handy for the eye". But it would slow down many actions, since you'd have to navigate through submenus very often.

And my original point was that the tree's context menu was too tall, not the main menus. Same here: smaller menu, longer ways to go. It's a trade off.

Yes, make them configurable... not now.

serendipity wrote:Well, since there is already a UDC toolbar button where one can right click to navigate to "go to", "open" etc, why not trigger a prefilled path if there is anything selected in the list?
I mean, if i select program files in the list and right-click on UDC button and click Go to, then UDC opens with "C:\Program Files" prefilled in location field.

Yep, that's a good idea. One addition/question: you mean: "UDC opens with a new command with "C:\Program Files" prefilled in location field.", right?

admin wrote:

I like the idea of reducing them to 6 entries, that's very "handy for the eye". But it would slow down many actions, since you'd have to navigate through submenus very often.

And my original point was that the tree's context menu was too tall, not the main menus. Same here: smaller menu, longer ways to go. It's a trade off.

Yes I can see this (and change is not popular) but I think in reality the fact it increases the depth of menus that doesn't matter!
This is why we have keyboard shortcuts and now UDC and toolbar icons. These are what users actually use because they are quick and easy. It is only when there is a need for something different that the menu comes into play. Personally, I hate massive lists of menus as it is frustrating searching for what I want. A short menu acts as a quick guide pointer though it may take a few extra levels - but this is for a special need and so not an every day requirement. Maybe a quick search alternative to locate commands is worthy of consideration long term. I use TheBat as a mailer and does this need some help of this type as there are so many options scattered around and many doing similar tasks - a nightmare of repetition and menu abuse!

admin wrote:

serendipity wrote:Well, since there is already a UDC toolbar button where one can right click to navigate to "go to", "open" etc, why not trigger a prefilled path if there is anything selected in the list?
I mean, if i select program files in the list and right-click on UDC button and click Go to, then UDC opens with "C:\Program Files" prefilled in location field.

Yep, that's a good idea. One addition/question: you mean: "UDC opens with a new command with "C:\Program Files" prefilled in location field.", right?

Yup, a new command with prefilled location field (of the selected item in list).

I thought Ugus' original request was have an easy way to prefill all possible location fields like:
GoTo - UDC
Move To - UDC
Copy To - UDC
Backup To -UDC

Ofcourse, you included "New" later so it applies there too.
Edit: I mean probably you can extend this to all fields that require location, or?

serendipity wrote:

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+ Toolbar | Manage User-Defined Commands | Context Menu: now, when holding CTRL on "New...", the Clone field is preset to the currently selected item.

I thought Ugus' original request was have an easy way to prefill all possible location fields like:
GoTo - UDC
Move To - UDC
Copy To - UDC
Backup To -UDC

Ofcourse, you included "New" later so it applies there too.
Edit: I mean probably you can extend this to all fields that require location, or?

What's your question? AFAIK, it all works as wished.

Sorry, i should have checked properly after restart. It indeed works. .