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XYplorer SoftPedia review

Posted: 23 Nov 2007 10:07
by Fedorov
Did anyone else know that this was on there?

http://www.softpedia.com/reviews/window ... 1667.shtml

Re: XYplorer SoftPedia review

Posted: 23 Nov 2007 11:03
by admin
Fedorov wrote:Did anyone else know that this was on there?

http://www.softpedia.com/reviews/window ... 1667.shtml
Yep, since 1 hour. I was personally informed by the reviewer. :)

Re: XYplorer SoftPedia review

Posted: 23 Nov 2007 12:57
by admin
Fedorov wrote:Did anyone else know that this was on there?

http://www.softpedia.com/reviews/window ... 1667.shtml
Actually this review inspired me to take a somewhat more aggressive stand on dual pane and some other of those notorious file management features... check out the bottom of http://www.xyplorer.com/

Re: XYplorer SoftPedia review

Posted: 23 Nov 2007 13:23
by Gandolf
admin wrote:Actually this review inspired me to take a somewhat more aggressive stand on dual pane and some other of those notorious file management features... check out the bottom of http://www.xyplorer.com/
I'm not sure if that will tempt users, or drive them off.

Re: XYplorer SoftPedia review

Posted: 23 Nov 2007 13:52
by admin
Gandolf wrote:
admin wrote:Actually this review inspired me to take a somewhat more aggressive stand on dual pane and some other of those notorious file management features... check out the bottom of http://www.xyplorer.com/
I'm not sure if that will tempt users, or drive them off.
It's an experiment. I'll tell you in 2 months...

Re: XYplorer SoftPedia review

Posted: 23 Nov 2007 13:59
by jacky
Gandolf wrote:I'm not sure if that will tempt users, or drive them off.
I don't know about new comers to XY either, but I think I like it... No, XY is not just yet another file manager - or dual-pane-clone - like the millions out there, XY is a different kind of file manager, one that's been think differently with efficiency, simplicity, power and ease of use in mind, not just that little group of stupid features that have nothing to do with serious file management... 8)

(note that's only a personal opinion, and don't try to explain why DP/etc are actually good/linked to FM, I don't care! :twisted: :P ;))

Posted: 23 Nov 2007 14:54
by PeterH
I think people don't look for another kind of file manager, they look for somthing they think they need. And if they think they (could) have a need for DP, and then just must read, they are wrong using XY - they will leave. Or what do you think?
And the only way you could try to make them stay would be, to give them some idea, why they would not need these functions, if using XY...

(Nur meine 2 Pfennige :roll: )

Posted: 23 Nov 2007 15:20
by graham
extract:
No dual pane, no internal file packer, no FTP function, no file splitter, no duplicates finder! If you are looking for these features, go elsewhere. You'll find them in almost any alternative file manager out there.
I would change this as the tone does seem wrong for those who do not appreciate Don's humour!

Suggested rework:

No dual pane, no internal file packer, no FTP function, no file splitter, no duplicates finder! Many of these these features are better provided by a dedicated auxiliary program rather than clutter XYplorer with bloat. In the case of dual pane, XYplorer provides much greater flexibility using Tabs - try it and convert to the more efficient way of file management.

Posted: 23 Nov 2007 16:20
by PeterH
Graham is right!
(And if it's humor, it's a black subtype :P )

But before saying what should not be realized in XY for keeping it (s)light (I think, better than "bloating" here?) what *can* be done by XY: replace some functions people will expect from DP by others of XY, as tabs.

And if DP really isn't wanted: delete it from roadmap?

Posted: 23 Nov 2007 17:14
by admin
graham wrote:extract:
No dual pane, no internal file packer, no FTP function, no file splitter, no duplicates finder! If you are looking for these features, go elsewhere. You'll find them in almost any alternative file manager out there.
I would change this as the tone does seem wrong for those who do not appreciate Don's humour!
What humour?

Posted: 23 Nov 2007 20:09
by j_c_hallgren
I think Graham's rework would be better as it gives the same basic message but in a friendlier fashion...I believe Don's vers would cause some potential users to just go elsewhere without even looking at XY, and that isn't a good thing, as one dissatified user can cause much more damage than 10 happy users can improve things...

And even though Don currently doesn't really support the concept of DP, of the items listed, it seems to be the one that would be most compatible with the XY concept of lightweight software...FTP and such, to me, definitely belong in a separate applic, but DP is within the File Mgmt scheme.

Posted: 24 Nov 2007 09:48
by admin
Thanks for all your suggestions to remove my "humour". :)

I rephrased it a bit, and indeed I think it's better now.

Posted: 24 Nov 2007 14:22
by graham
Much better and still retains some humour though only appreciated, I suspect, by those who have dared to wish for these things and been 'educated' to recognize the difference between mundane and perfection.

Posted: 24 Nov 2007 14:22
by j_c_hallgren
admin wrote:Thanks for all your suggestions to remove my "humour". :)
I rephrased it a bit, and indeed I think it's better now.
Yes, it is...however, I'd suggest a minor tweak: Put the "no zzzz" in question format, like "No FTP function? No file splitter?"...

I think that reads a bit better, as that would match what the reader is thinking at that point...

Posted: 24 Nov 2007 14:24
by admin
j_c_hallgren wrote:
admin wrote:Thanks for all your suggestions to remove my "humour". :)
I rephrased it a bit, and indeed I think it's better now.
Yes, it is...however, I'd suggest a minor tweak: Put the "no zzzz" in question format, like "No FTP function? No file splitter?"...

I think that reads a bit better, as that would match what the reader is thinking at that point...
Oh yes, I like that tweak.