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Copy/Move here to new Subfolder
Posted: 29 Oct 2007 11:13
by bergfex
I often use "Copy Here to New Subfolder" and "Move Here to New Subfolder".
It would be great if these commands could be accessed through the File menu so that I also can assign them customized keyboard shortcuts.
Re: Copy/Move here to new Subfolder
Posted: 29 Oct 2007 12:04
by admin
Yes, good idea basically.
However, I don't like that the File menu gets longer and longer...
You can achieve the same actions via menu Edit | Copy To... / Move To... or by a UDC (relative paths are recognized, so simply enter the name of the subfolder).
Re: Copy/Move here to new Subfolder
Posted: 29 Oct 2007 12:29
by jacky
admin wrote:You can achieve the same actions via menu Edit | Copy To... / Move To... or by a UDC (relative paths are recognized, so simply enter the name of the subfolder).
But this is really not the same, because the M/C to new subfolder features
ask for the name of that subfolder (with a default based on focus item), as the subfolder's name may change each time!
If you don't want to touch the File menu, how about a CKS/Misc then?
Re: Copy/Move here to new Subfolder
Posted: 29 Oct 2007 12:34
by admin
jacky wrote:admin wrote:You can achieve the same actions via menu Edit | Copy To... / Move To... or by a UDC (relative paths are recognized, so simply enter the name of the subfolder).
But this is really not the same, because the M/C to new subfolder features
ask for the name of that subfolder (with a default based on focus item), as the subfolder's name may change each time!
If you don't want to touch the File menu, how about a CKS/Misc then?
Ok, not the same but similar

And UDC lets you pre-define the name.
Anyway: File or Misc ? Not sure yet...
Re: Copy/Move here to new Subfolder
Posted: 29 Oct 2007 13:16
by bergfex
admin wrote:
However, I don't like that the File menu gets longer and longer...
You are absolutely right, I didn't consider that.
jacky wrote:
If you don't want to touch the File menu, how about a CKS/Misc then?
Yes, that would be the best solution - Misc or File, whatever ;-).
For the users who want to use the mouse to access these commands there is no advantage if the commands also can be found in the File menu. For the users who want to use the keyboard it's great to access them through customized keyboard shortcuts but they also have no advantage if the commands are included in the File menu.
Re: Copy/Move here to new Subfolder
Posted: 29 Oct 2007 13:29
by jacky
admin wrote:Ok, not the same but similar

And UDC lets you pre-define the name.
Not quite the same, no. I often need to move files into a (new) subfolder, which name is based on at least one of the files being moved.
Using the right-D&D I get asked for the folder's name, with a default based on the focused item. This is exactly what I need.
There's no other way to achieve that as of now, because :
- Move To: doesn't based it's default on focused item
- UDC: would imply I always use the same new/sub-folder's name, which I don't.
Another way could be to add it to the File menu, but in a new submenu along with all other Move/Copy operations ?
Re: Copy/Move here to new Subfolder
Posted: 29 Oct 2007 13:39
by admin
jacky wrote:Another way could be to add it to the File menu, but in a new submenu along with all other Move/Copy operations ?
I thought about that, and then I asked myself: why are Copy/Move commands in File and in Edit??? I did not like that question so I stopped thinking about it.

Posted: 29 Oct 2007 15:51
by graham
dmin wrote:
I thought about that, and then I asked myself: why are Copy/Move commands in File and in Edit??? I did not like that question so I stopped thinking about it.
It is a good question but I guess to change is a big job. I mentioned this before in another post as there does seem a lot of options to do things thus v10!
Maybe, an interim solution, the specific copy/move ops be put in a dedicated menu to relieve the File/Edit.
Posted: 31 Oct 2007 10:09
by admin
graham wrote:dmin wrote:
I thought about that, and then I asked myself: why are Copy/Move commands in File and in Edit??? I did not like that question so I stopped thinking about it.
It is a good question but I guess to change is a big job. I mentioned this before in another post as there does seem a lot of options to do things thus v10!
Maybe, an interim solution, the specific copy/move ops be put in a dedicated menu to relieve the File/Edit.
I went for the CKS/"Miscellaneous" solution. And I like it! Get ready for:
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- Copy Here to New Subfolder... (Ctrl+Shift+C)
- Move Here to New Subfolder... (Ctrl+Shift+M)
Posted: 31 Oct 2007 18:39
by bergfex
admin wrote:
I went for the CKS/"Miscellaneous" solution. And I like it!
I like it too!

Thank you, Don.
Posted: 29 Dec 2007 11:45
by bergfex
Nothing important, but sometimes it would be very handy to have the same functionality in "Copy/Move Here to New Subfolder" as in "New Path", i.e. to be able to define multi-level paths (Move Here to New Subfolder: folder/subfolder/subsubfolder).
Posted: 29 Dec 2007 18:02
by admin
bergfex wrote:Nothing important, but sometimes it would be very handy to have the same functionality in "Copy/Move Here to New Subfolder" as in "New Path", i.e. to be able to define multi-level paths (Move Here to New Subfolder: folder/subfolder/subsubfolder).
I like it. Should have done it right away!

Posted: 29 Dec 2007 22:52
by jacky
admin wrote:bergfex wrote:Nothing important, but sometimes it would be very handy to have the same functionality in "Copy/Move Here to New Subfolder" as in "New Path", i.e. to be able to define multi-level paths (Move Here to New Subfolder: folder/subfolder/subsubfolder).
I like it. Should have done it right away!

Yeah, on that note I'd love that feature on the Move/Copy Here As feature myself, so I could both move to a new folder (created on the fly) and at the same time rename whatever item I'm moving/copying !
I do that on occasions, and always have to resort to use Move/Copy Here to New Folder and then rename manually, so that would save me some time

Posted: 07 Jan 2008 11:31
by bergfex
ChangeLog wrote:* Copy/Move Here To New Subfolder: Now, the new folder is auto-selected if it is contained in the current file list. Before, all selections had been removed.
Thank you so much for that, Don!

I'm glad you liked the idea too. Again, your support is simply unbelievable.

Posted: 26 Jan 2008 10:03
by admin
bergfex wrote:Nothing important, but sometimes it would be very handy to have the same functionality in "Copy/Move Here to New Subfolder" as in "New Path", i.e. to be able to define multi-level paths (Move Here to New Subfolder: folder/subfolder/subsubfolder).
Done!
