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TOTD: List Tips Shortcut causes crash

Posted: 10 Oct 2007 16:50
by TheQwerty
The A and Shift+A shortcuts on the TOTD dialog are causing XY to crash for me on XP SP2 and XY 6.40.

All the other shortcuts work there, but when I press A or Shift+A I get the familiar XP dialog: "XYplorer.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close..."

Could not reproduce with XY 6.30.0056.

Posted: 10 Oct 2007 17:25
by Sakis
Confirmed!
Same happens here.

Posted: 10 Oct 2007 17:40
by j_c_hallgren
Yup...happens to me also! Too bad to have a bug like this on a official vers. :(

Posted: 10 Oct 2007 17:50
by serendipity
j_c_hallgren wrote:Yup...happens to me also! Too bad to have a bug like this on a official vers. :(
Unless Don fixes it secretly. :wink:

Posted: 10 Oct 2007 19:16
by admin
serendipity wrote:
j_c_hallgren wrote:Yup...happens to me also! Too bad to have a bug like this on a official vers. :(
Unless Don fixes it secretly. :wink:
Done. :)

On other topics later -- gotta run...

Posted: 10 Oct 2007 20:29
by jjk
Yes, now I can use A and Shift-A. But if I tape A, how can I read the tip I choose ? (I use Vista Home and Firefox), or must I tape Shift-A to be able to read some tipe ?

Also, you say Shift-F1 to open TOD. Here, it doesn't work. I have to use the Help menu entry.

At least (the last but not the least), how can I edit the TODs ? Must I edit the file "tipoftheday.htm" with any text editor, or is there any other possibility, ie directly in TOD window ?

Anyway, XY becomes greater day by day.
Thanks

JJK (lifetime license XXX...07-0925)

Posted: 10 Oct 2007 20:43
by jacky
jjk wrote:Yes, now I can use A and Shift-A. But if I tape A, how can I read the tip I choose ? (I use Vista Home and Firefox), or must I tape Shift-A to be able to read some tipe ?
I believe every tip title is a link, click on it to jump to the tip itself
jjk wrote:Also, you say Shift-F1 to open TOD. Here, it doesn't work. I have to use the Help menu entry.
If you're not using a fresh installation, you might have to define the KS as every new KS is not assigned on upgrades. To do so, open CKS (menu Tools), go to the command "Help/Tip of the Day", press Default, Assign and Ok
Or, if you never defined any manual KS and only uses default ones, simply click on "Reset All..."
jjk wrote:At least (the last but not the least), how can I edit the TODs ? Must I edit the file "tipoftheday.htm" with any text editor, or is there any other possibility, ie directly in TOD window ?
No, to add your own tips you should create a new file called tipoftheday_user.htm (with the text editor of your choice, yes)

You'll find more info on this on the wiki.

Posted: 10 Oct 2007 20:51
by admin
jjk wrote:Yes, now I can use A and Shift-A. But if I tape A, how can I read the tip I choose ? (I use Vista Home and Firefox), or must I tape Shift-A to be able to read some tipe ?

Also, you say Shift-F1 to open TOD. Here, it doesn't work. I have to use the Help menu entry.

At least (the last but not the least), how can I edit the TODs ? Must I edit the file "tipoftheday.htm" with any text editor, or is there any other possibility, ie directly in TOD window ?

Anyway, XY becomes greater day by day.
Thanks

JJK (lifetime license XXX...07-0925)
Click on the tips to read them. (should I underline them to that clearer??)

Newly added shortcuts need to be explicitly activated in "Customize Keyboard Shortcuts".

own tips: http://88.191.26.34/XYwiki/index.php/Ti ... r_Own_Tips

Posted: 11 Oct 2007 12:49
by jjk
I can't read any TipOfTheDay when clicking on it in the list opened by Shift-A. Nothing happens. I'm under Vista Home, with Firefox as default browser. I've installed Winhlp32 (so help works). My Vista is totally updated.

Any idea ?

Posted: 11 Oct 2007 14:01
by admin
jjk wrote:I can't read any TipOfTheDay when clicking on it in the list opened by Shift-A. Nothing happens. I'm under Vista Home, with Firefox as default browser. I've installed Winhlp32 (so help works). My Vista is totally updated.

Any idea ?
Puuh, that's hard to debug...

The link's HTML looks like this:
<a class=tip href="#6">7. Stop a search</a><br>

Maybe it was a stupid idea to (ab)use "#" in this context, but I'm not sure what this has to do with being on vista / using FF...

Can other Vista users click them???

Posted: 11 Oct 2007 14:20
by graham
I am not a Vista user but how does one get the version to correct A & shift A? I have re-downloaded but the error persists!

Posted: 11 Oct 2007 15:08
by j_c_hallgren
graham wrote: I have re-downloaded but the error persists!
I haven't yet re-installed and tested, but my current 6.40 Install.exe vers shows as 895,479 bytes whereas the original vers shows as 895,315 bytes, so there IS a difference in the two...which one do you have?

Update: Just tried it...it STILL crashes!! So Don, your secret fix is hiding where???

Posted: 11 Oct 2007 15:39
by TheQwerty
j_c_hallgren wrote:Update: Just tried it...it STILL crashes!! So Don, your secret fix is hiding where???
I downloaded the archive version listed in the beta thread and it works fine for me now.

Posted: 11 Oct 2007 15:59
by j_c_hallgren
:? Ok, so in prior attempt, I had just executed the install and nothing changed in crash process...this time, I first specifically deleted the XYplorer.exe and then re-ran the install...now it doesn't crash! :D
So maybe: Did the installer not actually replace the EXE since it was the identical 6.40 vers nbr?

Aplogies for the earlier bolding, but seems I wasn't the only one with issue.

Posted: 11 Oct 2007 17:20
by jacky
admin wrote:
jjk wrote:I can't read any TipOfTheDay when clicking on it in the list opened by Shift-A. Nothing happens. I'm under Vista Home, with Firefox as default browser. I've installed Winhlp32 (so help works). My Vista is totally updated.

Any idea ?
Puuh, that's hard to debug...

The link's HTML looks like this:
<a class=tip href="#6">7. Stop a search</a><br>

Maybe it was a stupid idea to (ab)use "#" in this context, but I'm not sure what this has to do with being on vista / using FF...

Can other Vista users click them???
I might be off there, but isn't Shift+A supposed to create a list of all tips, with text! So you should get every tip one after the other, both title & content/text/actuak tip included.

In other words, there's nothing to click there, only read & scroll. (Well, the tip's titles are still link to the tip alone, but there's no need to click really.)