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store preview images to seperate folders + db's

Posted: 10 Oct 2017 09:09
by lumicon
hi,
i wonder if any of those--more professional (photographer/graph.designer)--options were thought of...
not even adobe bridge is useful for that. it puts automatically all previews to appdata somewhere..., ... messes up the c: drive. sometimes it crashes and is unable to load these previews again. that's really annoying.
not talking about windows explorer...
long time ago there was thumbsplus, a really great file- & image-file explorer, where one could generate thumbnail files to separate databases, which than could be stored on the matching external backup harddrives and loaded if needed...
thank you for reading!

Re: store preview images to seperate folders + db's

Posted: 10 Oct 2017 09:21
by highend
XY keeps the thumbnail files in one place (and you can either let them reside in the default XY data folder
or configure your own). Symlinking them would probably be an option here but there is no automatism
to do that...

Re: store preview images to seperate folders + db's

Posted: 10 Oct 2017 13:54
by klownboy
Just a thought...lately more and more users are asking about thumbnail databases like the capability of extracting the thumbnail images from the thumbnail database since they've lost the images files viewtopic.php?f=3&t=17880&hilit=rethumb and now this question on image file thumbnail database segregation. Would it be a nice XY feature to have the capability of viewing the thumbnail database independent of the actual image files being available? Let's say the images/image folders are being kept on an external drive and are not available for whatever reason or someone lost or deleted image files or whole folders of images. Or, possibly you are traveling and you'd like to see the your image thumbnails, but the images themselves are back at home.

You recently came up with SC rethumb which allows extraction of thumbnail images from a DB. Would it be possible when the image folders are not available, the user would press a toolbar button which would then direct thumbnail viewing to the thumbnail database folder itself. It wouldn't have to be anything really fancy, but the user could press a key to step through the thumbnail database files (dat2/dbits combo). The display would look pretty much like it does now viewing thumbnails but of course you would not have the capability for MDBU.

What do you think? It might make for a nice feature for photographers as well as other users.

@highend, we should get SC rethumb added to the listing of undocumented script commands. SC Unthumb is there but not the newer rethumb.
v18.30.0007 - 2017-09-09 16:49
+ Scripting got a new command.
Name: ReThumb
Action: Recreates image files from the thumbnails cache.

Re: store preview images to seperate folders + db's

Posted: 10 Oct 2017 16:57
by highend
we should get SC rethumb added to the listing of undocumented script commands
Done

Re: store preview images to seperate folders + db's

Posted: 11 Oct 2017 01:21
by klownboy
Don, the alignment of the extension in the category section of Previewed Formats is off a bit.
Previewed formats.JPG
I know you were concerned about users understanding how this Previewed Formats and extension boxes work. Maybe in addition to your change, which does help by the way, you could also state above the Category box adjacent to word Categories, "select" or "select category to add and remove file extensions". Believe it or not, I think it was the fact that people didn't immediately 'see' that they were suppose to do that. Once they do that (select), they can see the lower box change to the selected category.

Thanks highend, I forgot there's a suggestion thread for undocumented commands along with the locked Overview of undocumented script commands. I would have posted to the suggestion thread instead of above.

Re: store preview images to seperate folders + db's

Posted: 11 Oct 2017 09:02
by admin
"select category to add and remove file extensions".
That's a good idea!

Alignment, thanks.

Read thumbs without the original files, yes, I like that and it could be done. But I'm not sure yet about the use of it and who would actually use it. Why is this cool?

Re: store preview images to seperate folders + db's

Posted: 11 Oct 2017 10:18
by Filehero
admin wrote:Why is this cool?
In case you've lost the original images. :mrgreen:

Re: store preview images to seperate folders + db's

Posted: 11 Oct 2017 10:35
by highend
Or because the drive with the original images is currently not available (but not lost) and you need
to look up which files you'll need / use for your next project...

Re: store preview images to seperate folders + db's

Posted: 11 Oct 2017 10:59
by Filehero
highend wrote:Or because the drive with the original images is currently not available (but not lost) and you need
to look up which files you'll need / use for your next project...
For instance, in Lightroom these are called Smart Previews which are proxies for raw files. In the absence of the raw files (drive, cloud unavailable) you can just do your manipulations on them (they get automatically applied to the original files once they're available again).

Re: store preview images to seperate folders + db's

Posted: 11 Oct 2017 15:16
by admin
Filehero wrote:
highend wrote:Or because the drive with the original images is currently not available (but not lost) and you need
to look up which files you'll need / use for your next project...
For instance, in Lightroom these are called Smart Previews which are proxies for raw files. In the absence of the raw files (drive, cloud unavailable) you can just do your manipulations on them (they get automatically applied to the original files once they're available again).
Haha, forget it.

The rest, yes, might be something for later.

Re: store preview images to seperate folders + db's

Posted: 11 Oct 2017 16:25
by klownboy
I do think the feature would be an enticement or selling point for photographers and others (i.e., being able to view photo thumbnails while traveling, on the road, or out on a job where they don't have their full library actual photos).

"Capable of viewing your photo thumbnails without your photos being present."

Re: store preview images to seperate folders + db's

Posted: 11 Oct 2017 18:52
by admin
Well, maybe. The thing would be quite an effort, and could become a can of worms. Needs some meditation time...