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Lately, with the last few versions, I've noticed an increase of Ram usage.

XY 6.20.0002 and Win XP

Right now, I have 41.3megs startup and 37.5megs working.

This sometimes grows back up over 40megs working after a number of hours up.

The lowest amount I've seen since I started tracking this is 18.5megs, which is becoming rare.

John Bee wrote:Lately, with the last few versions, I've noticed an increase of Ram usage.

XY 6.20.0002 and Win XP

Right now, I have 41.3megs startup and 37.5megs working.

This sometimes grows back up over 40megs working after a number of hours up.

The lowest amount I've seen since I started tracking this is 18.5megs, which is becoming rare.

I've been working for the whole day and the ram usage is about 20MB.
It almost never goes over 30MB, with at least 4 tabs opened at any time.
The max I've seen is ~50MB with 2000+, 128x96 thumbnails loaded.
Startup usage is 15MB.

I've noticed that usually the thumbnails are still loaded in ram even after changing the view mode/closing the tab and cleaning the ram.
This is problably not a bug, but a way to improve performance.
Still, this may consume quite a lot of ram.
To free this ram you have to change to a thumbnail view in a folder with no thumbnails to show (or with just a few of them).

Running v6.20.002 and WinXPSP2.

Muroph wrote:I've noticed that usually the thumbnails are still loaded in ram even after changing the view mode/closing the tab and cleaning the ram.
This is problably not a bug, but a way to improve performance.
Still, this may consume quite a lot of ram.
To free this ram you have to change to a thumbnail view in a folder with no thumbnails to show (or with just a few of them).

Correct! The usual trade-off between speed and memory (time and space). This time I hard-coded pro speed. Making this configurable or adding a button to remove any thumbs from memory ... hmm... would be a bit overdone I think.

BTW, reading this thread inspired me to improve thumbs handling a bit for those who do not use caching.

John Bee wrote:Lately, with the last few versions, I've noticed an increase of Ram usage...

I'm not aware of any changes that might have caused this.

Generally, determining the causes RAM usage under modern Windows is very difficult. One thing is for sure: it is not only controlled by the app, but by the OS as well. Part of this is configurable in your system settings, part of it is not.

The numbers you mentioned are indeed very high. I usually run XY under XPSP2 between 12 and 17 MB.

XP - ~22MB
Vista - ~12MB (but with more tabs open...)

admin wrote:Making this configurable or adding a button to remove any thumbs from memory ...

I think this is a good idea, especially for those people who have 256MB RAM or less, or who have high RAM usage (like me).
As for now, that trick I mentioned before will do.

lukescammell wrote:XP - ~22MB
Vista - ~12MB (but with more tabs open...)

I see this same type of behavior, too. I work on a Vista machine, but have an XP box sitting right next to me for testing. XY (and other apps as well) tend to show less memory usage in Task Manager in Vista than they do in XP.

JustinF wrote:

lukescammell wrote:XP - ~22MB
Vista - ~12MB (but with more tabs open...)

I see this same type of behavior, too. I work on a Vista machine, but have an XP box sitting right next to me for testing. XY (and other apps as well) tend to show less memory usage in Task Manager in Vista than they do in XP.

I wouldn't take Task Manager too seriously. Memory usage under modern Windows is hardly expressible in a single number. Not that I know much about it, but that's the idea I got from various talks and readings.

admin wrote:I'm not aware of any changes that might have caused this.

Well, I have just recovered from a major system crash!

The boot sectors/fat and partition tables went bye, bye after a weird OS burp.

Thank God I have and use True Image. I keep a very small C: drive (4gb) so imaging/restoring only takes 1 1/2 minutes.

Anway, after restoring, XY seems to be back to ~18 - 24mb ram.

John Bee wrote:

admin wrote:I'm not aware of any changes that might have caused this.

Well, I have just recovered from a major system crash!

The boot sectors/fat and partition tables went bye, bye after a weird OS burp.

Thank God I have and use True Image. I keep a very small C: drive (4gb) so imaging/restoring only takes 1 1/2 minutes.

Anway, after restoring, XY seems to be back to ~18 - 24mb ram.

What a horror. So True Image saved you, good to know. How did you do the restore? Booting from CD, then restoring from another HD?

admin wrote:So True Image saved you, good to know. How did you do the restore? Booting from CD, then restoring from another HD?

I have an USB hard drive.that I save these images to. Plug it in and restore the latest image and 10 mins later I'm back in.

John Bee wrote:

admin wrote:So True Image saved you, good to know. How did you do the restore? Booting from CD, then restoring from another HD?

I have an USB hard drive.that I save these images to. Plug it in and restore the latest image and 10 mins later I'm back in.

Cool. On the same harddisk, right? boot sectors/fat and partition tables all were correctly restored?

I own True Image 9, but never used it. I guess it will do what it has done for you? (Or do you need ver 10?)

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I own True Image 9, but never used it. I guess it will do what it has done for you? (Or do you need ver 10?)

Did you know you can get a free version of the latest True Image V10, well slightly limited feature-wise but has all the esentials. There is a catch - this version is from Seagate hd site and only works for Seagate disks.

Download is Seagate DiscWizard.

graham wrote:Download is Seagate DiscWizard.

Samsung is here.

admin wrote:I own True Image 9, but never used it. I guess it will do what it has done for you? (Or do you need ver 10?)

Wa!!! You have TI and don't use it

One of the THE most essential pieces of software that EVERYONE must own and use daily.

Beside XY that is.

And yes, TI can restore your HD to the way it was in every respect. As of TI 9, every time you image a partition, it also backs up the partition tables at the same time.