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Startup Minimized

Posted: 19 May 2007 21:45
by mwb1100
I'd like to have a way to specify that XYplorer start in a minimized state - not always but as a start up parameter. The intent is to let me have XYplorer start at Windows load time by placing a shortcut in the Startup folder, but in a minimized state.

I know that people have tried using the shortcut option "Run: Minimized" to get this behavior, but that there is some technical reason that XYplorer is unable to act according to that setting.

However, it is clearly possible for XYplorer to start in a minimized state, since that's what it does if it was last closed while minimized.

If a command-line option can be provided to inform XYplorer to start minimized, then I can place that option in the command line for the shortcut in the Startup folder, and I'll get the behavior that I'd like (and others have requested).

If this is possible, it might make sense to allow the option to specify any of the 3 startup states: Minimized, Normal Window, or Maximized so that the behaviors that can be usually specified for a shortcut can be specified on the XYplorer's command line (since they can't be specified in the shortcut option drop-down). The absence of the option would cause XYplorer to start in the windows state it was last in (which is what is currently done).

Re: Startup Minimized

Posted: 21 May 2007 20:00
by admin
mwb1100 wrote:I know that people have tried using the shortcut option "Run: Minimized" to get this behavior, but that there is some technical reason that XYplorer is unable to act according to that setting.
If I could find out whether XY was started via a shortcut then I could respect the option in the shortcut instead of reproducing the previous window state. I'd rather go that way... (not knowing if it's possible) ... (however this wish has not a high priority currently and frankly :wink: ).

Re: Startup Minimized

Posted: 27 May 2007 17:47
by clauderenaud
mwb1100 wrote:I'd like to have a way to specify that XYplorer start in a minimized state - not always but as a start up parameter. The intent is to let me have XYplorer start at Windows load time by placing a shortcut in the Startup folder, but in a minimized state.

I know that people have tried using the shortcut option "Run: Minimized" to get this behavior, but that there is some technical reason that XYplorer is unable to act according to that setting.

However, it is clearly possible for XYplorer to start in a minimized state, since that's what it does if it was last closed while minimized.

If a command-line option can be provided to inform XYplorer to start minimized, then I can place that option in the command line for the shortcut in the Startup folder, and I'll get the behavior that I'd like (and others have requested).

If this is possible, it might make sense to allow the option to specify any of the 3 startup states: Minimized, Normal Window, or Maximized so that the behaviors that can be usually specified for a shortcut can be specified on the XYplorer's command line (since they can't be specified in the shortcut option drop-down). The absence of the option would cause XYplorer to start in the windows state it was last in (which is what is currently done).
I also vote for that idea ...

Re: Startup Minimized

Posted: 27 May 2007 17:52
by admin
clauderenaud wrote:I also vote for that idea ...
Aha, that raises the priority...

I wonder: is there any standard out there for such a switch??
like e.g.:
XYplorer.exe /win=min|max|normal
or so?

Re: Startup Minimized

Posted: 27 May 2007 19:26
by clauderenaud
admin wrote:
clauderenaud wrote:I also vote for that idea ...
Aha, that raises the priority...

I wonder: is there any standard out there for such a switch??
like e.g.:
XYplorer.exe /win=min|max|normal
or so?
I don't really knoww if this is possible in that way, but several years ago I programmed in VB6 too and found a tray.ocx which permited to achieve this, perhaps googling a bit you could find such thing ...

Posted: 27 May 2007 20:05
by serendipity
To make the priority higher, I vote for start minimized too.

Re: Startup Minimized

Posted: 27 May 2007 21:32
by admin
clauderenaud wrote:
admin wrote:
clauderenaud wrote:I also vote for that idea ...
Aha, that raises the priority...

I wonder: is there any standard out there for such a switch??
like e.g.:
XYplorer.exe /win=min|max|normal
or so?
I don't really knoww if this is possible in that way, but several years ago I programmed in VB6 too and found a tray.ocx which permited to achieve this, perhaps googling a bit you could find such thing ...
No, I don't have any problem programming this. I just wanted to know if there's any de facto standard for wording this.

BTW, I don't understand this wish. :wink: I start XYplorer maybe once day (only to upgrade to the next version, else I would start it once a week). If I don't like how it comes up (min or max), then I change it. Why make this a switch??

Posted: 27 May 2007 22:15
by serendipity
Thats true, shutting down windows with XY minimised starts XY minimised on next start up. But I have the habit of closing every app before shutting down.

Hmmm on a side note, anybody know if its good to shutdown PC/laptop everyday or its better to leave it ON? I've read numerous articles and got even more confused.

Re: Startup Minimized

Posted: 27 May 2007 23:01
by clauderenaud
admin wrote:
clauderenaud wrote:
admin wrote:
clauderenaud wrote:I also vote for that idea ...
Aha, that raises the priority...

I wonder: is there any standard out there for such a switch??
like e.g.:
XYplorer.exe /win=min|max|normal
or so?
I don't really knoww if this is possible in that way, but several years ago I programmed in VB6 too and found a tray.ocx which permited to achieve this, perhaps googling a bit you could find such thing ...
No, I don't have any problem programming this. I just wanted to know if there's any de facto standard for wording this.

BTW, I don't understand this wish. :wink: I start XYplorer maybe once day (only to upgrade to the next version, else I would start it once a week). If I don't like how it comes up (min or max), then I change it. Why make this a switch??
Concerning wording standard, I don't know ...

And about minimizing app like XYp, to have it ready each time we start essentially...
It's true that we can not minimize the windows explorer ...
Minimizing XYp on launch For me would not be essential but very practical !!!

Posted: 28 May 2007 00:16
by j_c_hallgren
Regarding wording of switch: I'd see what other file managers use, and use what is most common, to make adapting to XY easier on people who convert.

Regarding shutdown of XY: I also only shut it down when I update vers, and keep it running otherwise...other than that, there are the rare times when I accidentally close it, or when I have to reboot for other issues.

About leaving system on: At end of day, I put my laptop in Hibernate mode, as hard drives and LCD have a finite life and I'd not want to waste hours of non-use while I'm sleeping! Except for last nite, when I forgot to say OK to Hibernate and it got left on! :oops:

Re: Startup Minimized

Posted: 28 May 2007 00:16
by mwb1100
admin wrote:I wonder: is there any standard out there for such a switch??
like e.g.:
XYplorer.exe /win=min|max|normal
or so?
I am not aware of any standard for this - what you propose above sounds fine to me.
admin wrote: BTW, I don't understand this wish. :wink: I start XYplorer maybe once day (only to upgrade to the next version, else I would start it once a week). If I don't like how it comes up (min or max), then I change it. Why make this a switch??
Just to make certain it starts minimized even if when I last shutdown or restarted it was open. It's just a minor item for me, but I was hoping it would be a small enough change that you'd consider it. I'd seen in previous threads that one or two others had looked for something similar using shortcut settings, but there was some problem with the Windows shortcut settings getting used; I figured a straight up command line option might workaround that issue.

Re: Startup Minimized

Posted: 28 May 2007 09:32
by clauderenaud
Admin wrote:I wonder: is there any standard out there for such a switch??
like e.g.:
XYplorer.exe /win=min|max|normal
or so?
Finally, I think that the most usual way, xyplorer.exe /m (or /minimize). OR even a togglable option as you did for minimizing XYp to the systray...

Re: Startup Minimized

Posted: 28 May 2007 09:35
by admin
clauderenaud wrote:Finally, I think that the most usual way, xyplorer.exe /m (or /minimize). OR even a togglable option as you did for minimizing XYp to the systray...
Too late, done already. Works nicely. :)

Re: Startup Minimized

Posted: 28 May 2007 10:24
by clauderenaud
admin wrote:
clauderenaud wrote:Finally, I think that the most usual way, xyplorer.exe /m (or /minimize). OR even a togglable option as you did for minimizing XYp to the systray...
Too late, done already. Works nicely. :)
No, "as" I said ...
Yes it minimizes to the tray but no on startup ... and/or no with a command line switch ...

Re: Startup Minimized

Posted: 28 May 2007 10:29
by admin
clauderenaud wrote:
admin wrote:
clauderenaud wrote:Finally, I think that the most usual way, xyplorer.exe /m (or /minimize). OR even a togglable option as you did for minimizing XYp to the systray...
Too late, done already. Works nicely. :)
No, "as" I said ...
Yes it minimizes to the tray but no on startup ... and/or no with a command line switch ...
Just saw there's a bug in it.... However, it works, also minimized to tray, when you have an /ini= switch in the command line as well.