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Android OS Access

Posted: 13 Dec 2014 03:24
by TestMeister
XY 14.60.0200 on WIn7 Profession 64 bit

Don just graciously resolved my last problem so I feel like I'm on a roll...

The search did not turn up any recent posts on this so what is the current status of XY accessing Android devices?

Below shows Windows Explorer on the left and XY on the right.
On the left you can see I have access to my Samsung tablet (SM-T900) and when connected, WinX also sees my HTC-M8. For both devices, as soon as I connect the USB cable they show up and I have no special software loaded (AFAIK). However, no matter what I try I cannot get XY to see the devices.
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Re: Android OS Access

Posted: 13 Dec 2014 09:57
by admin
Yes, yes, known issue. I had planned it for this year, but it's really tough to do. Looks I won't make it in 2014. But it's on the top of my list. I'm losing money everyday without this feature...

Re: Android OS Access

Posted: 14 Dec 2014 10:26
by Filehero
admin wrote:I had planned it for this year, but it's really tough to do.
Is it "just" because of the sheer plethora and diversity mobile (android) phones?
Maybe a more gradual approach to introduction could be helpful here (e.g. starting with a tweak)?

FH

Re: Android OS Access

Posted: 14 Dec 2014 10:32
by admin
No, it's because of the sheer lack of documentation and the apparent bizarrness of the implementation. The was probably designed in the darkest times of MS, deep in the Vista era...

Re: Android OS Access

Posted: 16 Dec 2014 00:39
by TestMeister
After some trial and error, WebDAV Server seems to work pretty well despite some limitations. There are a few different apps on the Google Play that provide this and below is the one I just loaded (ad version is free)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... bdavserver

Basically it allows your device to be a node on your local LAN just like a PC. It was trivial to setup, just DL, enable, then map a network drive to the IP address it displays.

The WebDAV protocol limits transferred files to 4 gig and for any files over 50m you have to hack the default Windows registry setting as follows:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\WebClient\Parameters
set FileSizeLimitInBytes = 4294967295
Also, if browsing your device from Windows is sluggish, in Control Panel\Internet Options\Connections\LAN Settings\
Uncheck the Proxy automatic options


The advantage is not being tethered to your PC nor having your phone go into an alternate feature mode when connecting via the USB.
It works fine for me as I transfer pictures, sound files and documents of modest size.
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Re: Android OS Access

Posted: 16 Dec 2014 09:51
by admin
Not bad as a workaround, thanks! :appl:

Re: Android OS Access

Posted: 16 Dec 2014 13:56
by sinilill
Another solution would be to launch a FTP server (I'm using FTP Widget) on the phone and then access it over WiFi with a FTP program. Since I'm too lazy to browse my phone in a seperate program, I 'have set up some WinSCP batch scripts, some examples:
1. Phone\DCIM folder -> computer\phonepictures folder - with one click the script downloads all new pictures from phone to computer.
2. Selected files -> phone\INCOMING folder - with one click I can upload files to a specified folder in my phone.

With my 2 year old phone I get 6MB/s, for me it's fast enough :D

Normally it would start to download, but I'm not at home right now.
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Re: Android OS Access

Posted: 16 Dec 2014 15:14
by Filehero
I don't know about Android, but for WindowsPhone my würgaround simply is using Windows' FileExplorer.

Cheers,
Filehero

Re: Android OS Access

Posted: 16 Dec 2014 17:06
by kunkel321
Yea... I have a Kindle Fire HD 7. It's invisible to many Windows apps; including anything that runs on Java (such as my fave calendar, Pimlical). Very annoying. Also it's invisible to Google Play. I was able to use an app from Amazon called Wifi File Explorer Pro. I'll have to try TestMiester's workabout.

Re: Android OS Access

Posted: 16 Dec 2014 21:50
by Enternal
Yeah that's the same problem with most newer mobile devices. With old devices, they would expose the user memory as a drive which is formatted in FAT32. You can then do whatever you need with any programs. The newer ones rely on MTP and only a select few programs have it out of the box so you generally have to use workarounds like all the ones here. I use AirDroid and a browser for most of my stuff but in the past, I also used Wifi File Explorer Pro when I got that for free ages ago. After that, I also used a widget to easily turn on and off Wifi and then use WinSCP also exactly just like everyone here is doing hahaha. Although to ease things for me nowadays, I simply use BitTorrent Sync and have the master folder on the computer. Any changes on the computer or on the phone will be synced across and instantly.

Re: Android OS Access

Posted: 19 Dec 2014 05:03
by lead
What about XY supporting MTP?
Is that so dificult?

Re: Android OS Access

Posted: 19 Dec 2014 06:22
by bdeshi
lead wrote:What about XY supporting MTP?
Is that so dificult?
Don is already fiercely working on it you know. http://www.xyplorer.com/xyfc/viewtopic. ... 43#p115144

Re: Android OS Access

Posted: 19 Dec 2014 23:17
by lead
SammaySarkar wrote:Don is already fiercely working on it you know. http://www.xyplorer.com/xyfc/viewtopic. ... 43#p115144
Yeah, but I don't know what he is doing because of this::
admin wrote:No, it's because of the sheer lack of documentation and the apparent bizarrness of the implementation. The was probably designed in the darkest times of MS, deep in the Vista era...

Re: Android OS Access

Posted: 20 Dec 2014 05:58
by bdeshi
that's the reason why it's taking so long. But he did not say he's stopped because of that!
(Remember there's only one person working on it and not a big team.)

Re: Android OS Access

Posted: 20 Dec 2014 09:53
by admin
No worries, I'm coming closer...