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Precedence of View Settings

Posted: 08 Jul 2014 23:02
by Stef123
I just can't figure out how the various view settings interact, what takes precedence over what?

Here's what I want:
1) Always show path column in Paper Folder
2) Always show path column in Search results and Branch View
3) Never show path column anywhere else
4) Remember widths and order of columns for all folders by default
5) Remember FVS for some folders
6) Auto-size columns by default, but from what I read this is not possible

Basically, I understand how to set up the above - what I need is an explanation of when and how some settings override others:
A) Tab settings have priority AFAIK - so I disabled Styles > Remember list settings per Tab
B) FVS enabled - make default. To cover 4) I enable the checkbox "Column Layout"
C) Styles > Apply list styles globally - what exactly is a "list style"? Everything that sits on that config-page? Does it contain all 4 categories under "Apply To..."? Does this button also cover C) or is it for A) only?

Re: Precedence of View Settings

Posted: 09 Jul 2014 09:19
by admin
Apart from 5) (Remember FVS for some folders) obviously, these are the factory default settings in XY. And setting some FVS will not affect any of them. So, IMO, it should work out of the box. :?

Re: Precedence of View Settings

Posted: 09 Jul 2014 09:21
by admin
BTW, I'm thinking about removing the "Default FVS" from the app. This thing is largely superfluous and leads to support questions again and again...

Re: Precedence of View Settings

Posted: 09 Jul 2014 09:41
by bdeshi
admin wrote:I'm thinking about removing the "Default FVS" from the app
Noooo! Seriously, No!!!

Re: Precedence of View Settings

Posted: 09 Jul 2014 09:44
by bdeshi
Continued from:viewtopic.php?f=5&t=12041&p=108375#p108375
Stef123 wrote:
SammaySarkar wrote:create a new FVS with this folder filter:

Code: Select all

paper:*
to have all PFs show the path column
Instead of enabling "Always Show Path Columns"? Or in addition to it?
This will always enable path column in PF tabs regardless of the state of "Always show path columns"

Re: Precedence of View Settings

Posted: 09 Jul 2014 09:56
by Marco
SammaySarkar wrote:
admin wrote:I'm thinking about removing the "Default FVS" from the app
Noooo! Seriously, No!!!
+1!!!!

Re: Precedence of View Settings

Posted: 09 Jul 2014 10:01
by Stef123
Thanks, Don and Sammay. I wish you had given me that hint earlier, before I began to question my mental sanity...
SammaySarkar wrote:
admin wrote:I'm thinking about removing the "Default FVS" from the app
Noooo! Seriously, No!!!
Why not? If it is superfluous and interferes with other settings?

I still don't get a grasp on my setup. Paper folder paths show up consistently ONLY with FVS disabled. As soon as I bring FVS into the game, it's back to a gamble. 'paper:*' -FVS improves the chances of getting paths, but there is a still a "random" streak to it. Maybe I must enable paths manually instead of setting it by PF-options?

Would you please elaborate a bit on my point C) above? Or point me to a help resource that explains the order of precedence, the interactions between global styles and styles per tab and how it fits into the scheme of FVS and PF path options?

Re: Precedence of View Settings

Posted: 09 Jul 2014 13:38
by admin
"List Style" is all the toggles under Tools / Customize List. In "pane.ini" this is a combined (bit field) value saved per list mode under key "Style".

Re: Precedence of View Settings

Posted: 09 Jul 2014 13:40
by admin
SammaySarkar wrote:
admin wrote:I'm thinking about removing the "Default FVS" from the app
Noooo! Seriously, No!!!
For what do you need it them? Note that XY has an internal auto-default that should take care. Note that I personally never ever used a "Default FVS" in XY.

Re: Precedence of View Settings

Posted: 09 Jul 2014 13:51
by bdeshi
Default FVS: Well, I use it for what the name suggests, I've setup a default style for newly opened folders/tabs. How do I do it if default FVS is removed? How do I change that internal default style?

Re: Precedence of View Settings

Posted: 09 Jul 2014 13:56
by admin
SammaySarkar wrote:Default FVS: Well, I use it for what the name suggests, I'v esetup a default style for newly opened folders/tabs. How do I do it if default FVS is removed? How do I change that internal default style?
OK, if you want new tabs in a specific style then you need it.

The internal default just remembers the last non-FVS style and restores it when you switch from a FVS to a non-FVS folder.

Re: Precedence of View Settings

Posted: 09 Jul 2014 14:08
by Stef123
admin wrote:"List Style" is all the toggles under Tools / Customize List.
Well, yes, but to bug-track my problems I need to know how it interferes with the other stuff - FVS etc.
I obviously can enable list styles 1) globally 2) per tab 3) FVS - all at the same time

Concerning these overlaps - is there any documentation I can read instead of pestering you with a battery of questions?

Re: Precedence of View Settings

Posted: 09 Jul 2014 14:14
by admin
No, this is not documented I think. Never found the time. :|

Re: Precedence of View Settings

Posted: 09 Jul 2014 14:30
by bdeshi
I believe the order is : FVS -> tab -> tabset -> global
Stef123 wrote:C) Styles > Apply list styles globally - what exactly is a "list style"?
List Styles are the options in Tools->Customize List.

Re: Precedence of View Settings

Posted: 09 Jul 2014 16:20
by nerdweed
I don''t know the complete order but Tabs > FVS (though I would have wanted higher precedence for FVS)