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Forum log-in not secure
Posted: 04 Jul 2014 12:16
by zer0
I remember that a while ago, a lot was made of XYplorer installation executable not being signed and that was corrected. However, I wonder how many people know that this forum log-in is not done in a secure manner and their username and password are sent in clear text.
The main forum page is not loaded over HTTPS, so this submit action is not encrypted:
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<input type="submit" name="login" value="Login" class="button2" />
A network sniff has confirmed that credentials are sent in clear text as per...
I know it's just a forum and such and I am not asking for the whole site to be encrypted, but sending the username and password in the clear? Really?
Re: Forum log-in not secure
Posted: 04 Jul 2014 15:00
by PeterH
If it's so, (and I believe it is,)
+1
Re: Forum log-in not secure
Posted: 04 Jul 2014 15:10
by bdeshi
Good thing I haven't got sniffers around... FIX IT QUICK!!
Re: Forum log-in not secure
Posted: 05 Jul 2014 11:49
by admin
Hey, write to phpBB, they made it like this.
Re: Forum log-in not secure
Posted: 05 Jul 2014 18:43
by bdeshi
I figure a solution is converting the login page/whole forum domain to https.
Re: Forum log-in not secure
Posted: 06 Jul 2014 06:47
by Enternal
SammaySarkar wrote:I figure a solution is converting the login page/whole forum domain to https.
Yep! Although that means paying for a SSL certificate and those can be costly.
Re: Forum log-in not secure
Posted: 07 Jul 2014 16:35
by zer0
admin wrote:Hey, write to phpBB, they made it like this.
phpBB made it like that, but it does not meant that you cannot secure user's data, just because phpBB chose not to.
Enternal wrote:SammaySarkar wrote:I figure a solution is converting the login page/whole forum domain to https.
Yep! Although that means paying for a SSL certificate and those can be costly.
Whether something is costly or not depends on Don, but there is a great deal of choice as far as CAs is concerned and their offerings.
Re: Forum log-in not secure
Posted: 13 Aug 2014 13:13
by zer0
For the record -- with the thread having gone down like a water off the back of a geese -- Google has started (and may increase in the future) its prioritisation of secure websites in its search results. As such, if Don will get a certificate for the main site (benefits are debatable, but let's park that for now), it should not be that much of a stretch to have one that encompasses the forum as well.
Re: Forum log-in not secure
Posted: 08 May 2016 20:20
by bdeshi
Hey Don,
Let's Encrypt provides free SSL certificates. Will that be any good for XYplorer homepage+xyfc?
(disclaimer-of-sorts: I just transferred my [test]website to https and it was pretty easy.

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Re: Forum log-in not secure
Posted: 09 May 2016 09:01
by admin
Interesting, thanks. But it's just a forum.
Re: Forum log-in not secure
Posted: 09 May 2016 10:32
by PeterH
admin wrote:Interesting, thanks. But it's just a forum.
Sorry to say, but regarding security I don't understand your position.
Re: Forum log-in not secure
Posted: 09 May 2016 11:24
by JLoftus
Have to agree, with certs being free or nearly free today, and quiet easy to implement, "it's just a forum" is not a good posture.
Re: Forum log-in not secure
Posted: 09 May 2016 12:33
by Antieve
It's not really worth it I guess, forum does not contain any sensitive information. so the probability of hacking is reduced to almost zero.
Even if someone decides to use MITM on your side, so what, change password and forget about it
There is only one reason to worry, in the case if you using the same password for all sites, but that is your personal problem

Re: Forum log-in not secure
Posted: 09 May 2016 13:07
by bdeshi
Antieve wrote:Even if someone decides to use MITM on your side, so what, change password and forget about it

Wow.
Re: Forum log-in not secure
Posted: 09 May 2016 15:36
by TheQwerty
More concerning than the forum log-in is the fact that without TLS the authenticity and integrity when downloading XYplorer itself cannot be ensured.