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Filter focused file type

Posted: 17 Nov 2006 13:27
by surrender

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+ Menu Edit: added command "Select Focused File Type". Selects all list items with the same extension as the currently focused item.  Also useful when you want count the items of a certain type.
I love this thing. So cool. But how about "Filter focused file type"??

Re: Filter focused file type

Posted: 17 Nov 2006 14:47
by admin
surrender wrote:

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+ Menu Edit: added command "Select Focused File Type". Selects all list items with the same extension as the currently focused item.  Also useful when you want count the items of a certain type.
I love this thing. So cool. But how about "Filter focused file type"??
Talking about VF, right? You mean do not show it, or show only this?

Re: Filter focused file type

Posted: 17 Nov 2006 15:16
by surrender
admin wrote:
surrender wrote:

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+ Menu Edit: added command "Select Focused File Type". Selects all list items with the same extension as the currently focused item.  Also useful when you want count the items of a certain type.
I love this thing. So cool. But how about "Filter focused file type"??
Talking about VF, right? You mean do not show it, or show only this?
Yeah, its regarding VF. I think i will use "show only focused file type" more often than "filter focused file type". But then it depends on what one is trying to achieve. maybe you have to have both because soon someone will wish for the counter function.

Re: Filter focused file type

Posted: 17 Nov 2006 15:25
by admin
surrender wrote:
admin wrote:
surrender wrote:

Code: Select all

+ Menu Edit: added command "Select Focused File Type". Selects all list items with the same extension as the currently focused item.  Also useful when you want count the items of a certain type.
I love this thing. So cool. But how about "Filter focused file type"??
Talking about VF, right? You mean do not show it, or show only this?
Yeah, its regarding VF. I think i will use "show only focused file type" more often than "filter focused file type". But then it depends on what one is trying to achieve. maybe you have to have both because soon someone will wish for the counter function.
"Filter focused file type" would probably have to be cumulative if you do it in an already filtered list? Or will it replace the previous filter?

Posted: 17 Nov 2006 15:38
by lukescammell
Could this just not be a simple button to press on the ^J popup window?

So it goes:

1) Press ^J
2) Either click the mouse button or hit ^Enter on the VF popup.

I guess you're referring to the fact that the VF popup remembers your last visual filter? In this case, you can always hit the delete button :D otherwise yes, I would assume that it filters both?

Posted: 17 Nov 2006 15:44
by j_c_hallgren
Yes, I could definitely use an ability to do an "on the fly" VF...and having it cummulative would make sense, as the list one sees is already a subset when a VF was used to create the list..

And I'm presuming that ^ represents Cntl?

Posted: 17 Nov 2006 15:44
by surrender
In my opinion it should be cumulative if already a filter exists. If user wants a fresh filter then he/she should flush the old filter (ctrl+shft+J) before using "Filter focused file type".

Re: Filter focused file type

Posted: 18 Nov 2006 18:40
by jacky
admin wrote:"Filter focused file type" would probably have to be cumulative if you do it in an already filtered list? Or will it replace the previous filter?
This is an interresting idea, but the way I see it clicking on this should set/activate the VF, not just pop up the VF window, and I think it should not be cumulative but replace any existing VF there could be.
You want to add *.avi to your VF: Ctrl+J and do it manually! ;) Besides, "Filter Focused File Type" doesn't sounds like a cumulative thing to me :roll: (or rename it to someting like "Add Focused File Format To VF" ?)
ps: Are here any regexp expert here? cause I'm not sure if adding ".*\.ext|" to any regexp will always do the trick, for the cumulative part on RegExp's VF?
admin wrote:added command "Select Focused File Type". Selects all
list items with the same extension as the currently focused item.
I'm not sure the name of that command is so good. I mean it says File Type but actually works on extension, which can be confusing. Yes, one file type can have many extension. And to click on "Select Focused File Type" and not get all the file of same file type being selected, well....
Maybe go for "Select Focused File Format" ? Since the extension of a file is usually related to its format, and also there are no such thing as a File Type column, etc

Re: Filter focused file type

Posted: 19 Nov 2006 03:46
by j_c_hallgren
jacky wrote:This is an interresting idea, but the way I see it clicking on this should set/activate the VF, not just pop up the VF window, and I think it should not be cumulative but replace any existing VF there could be.
You want to add *.avi to your VF: Ctrl+J and do it manually! ;) Besides, "Filter Focused File Type" doesn't sounds like a cumulative thing to me :roll: (or rename it to someting like "Add Focused File Format To VF" ?)
After reading this, and thinking on it some more, I now agree that it should replace the current VF, if any, or set a temporary "on-the-fly" VF...as when one wants to select a subset, you don't want to lose the current list, but just pick certain ones to work on...whereas when doing a filter as described, you're creating a brand new list of just that particular extension, so why would it be cumulative?
jacky wrote: I'm not sure the name of that command is so good. I mean it says File Type but actually works on extension, which can be confusing. Yes, one file type can have many extension. And to click on "Select Focused File Type" and not get all the file of same file type being selected, well....
Maybe go for "Select Focused File Format" ? Since the extension of a file is usually related to its format, and also there are no such thing as a File Type column, etc
I don't think "File Format" is the solution, so why not just use Extension, since that's what it's using as criteria, true?

Re: Filter focused file type

Posted: 19 Nov 2006 08:13
by admin
Concerning Select: Okay, I could select by type instead of by extension - much better! And change the caption to "Select Focused Item Type" or simply "Select Focused Type". Comments, please...

Concerning Filter: a VF by type is not possible (type is not known at the point when VF sets in). So that would have to be by extension. Caption is difficult... "Show only items of/with this extension"? What is "this"? Actually: is it such an interesting functionality???

Re: Filter focused file type

Posted: 19 Nov 2006 09:25
by j_c_hallgren
admin wrote:Concerning Select: Okay, I could select by type instead of by extension - much better! And change the caption to "Select Focused Item Type" or simply "Select Focused Type". Comments, please...
And what do you do with extensions that are NOT known to XY? And thus have no file type...I just noticed that .CSV doesn't show a file type, for example, so current method works just fine to be able to pick out those and do whatever on them...my vote is to leave it as is, which is most flexible and adaptive to all possible extensions..
admin wrote:Concerning Filter: a VF by type is not possible (type is not known at the point when VF sets in). So that would have to be by extension. Caption is difficult... "Show only items of/with this extension"? What is "this"? Actually: is it such an interesting functionality???
Caption could be "Filter by focused extension"...and yes, I'd use it! The current VF is nice, but a bit too complex for my needs...and involves keyboard more...so being able to bring up my Financial folder, then using mouse, be able to filter the list down to just the .CSV, so I can more easily work with those, but not for any operation that would need selection of all of them at one time.

Re: Filter focused file type

Posted: 19 Nov 2006 10:04
by admin
j_c_hallgren wrote:
admin wrote:Concerning Select: Okay, I could select by type instead of by extension - much better! And change the caption to "Select Focused Item Type" or simply "Select Focused Type". Comments, please...
And what do you do with extensions that are NOT known to XY? And thus have no file type...I just noticed that .CSV doesn't show a file type, for example, so current method works just fine to be able to pick out those and do whatever on them...my vote is to leave it as is, which is most flexible and adaptive to all possible extensions..
Does not show a file type? Here, every file has a file type! :? If it is not known it's called "[extension]-File" (e.g. CSV-File).

Posted: 19 Nov 2006 10:12
by j_c_hallgren
Well...I've got more than one "missing" type! I've emailed you a partial screenshot showing the missing CSV type...since some of the file names are slightly personal, I didn't want to post pix here...

Posted: 19 Nov 2006 10:24
by admin
j_c_hallgren wrote:Well...I've got more than one "missing" type! I've emailed you a partial screenshot showing the missing CSV type...since some of the file names are slightly personal, I didn't want to post pix here...
Oh, interesting and mysterious case of OS behavior.

I suggest: if no type exists, then use extension. :idea:

Posted: 19 Nov 2006 15:49
by j_c_hallgren
FYI: Win Expl properly shows CSV as "CSV-File", and the others similar..

I'd personally like some way to choose whether to just use plain extension or file type...as example, both CAB and ZIP show as WinZip files, but some times I'd want both and sometimes I'd only want ZIP...

Current VF allows user to have total variety in it...My desire is a quicker, simpler form of this...maybe I'm in the minority?