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Firing of TB dropdown entries

Posted: 14 Apr 2014 09:31
by Stef123
How do I make the TB-dropdowns behave like everywhere else: Hold down the left mouse, drag to browse, release mouse to trigger?

I managed the first first part (Fire click on mousedown), but then it makes me click again instead of registering the mouse release.

Re: Firing of TB dropdown entries

Posted: 14 Apr 2014 10:10
by admin
Hmm, didn't this work under XP (cannot test it now)? But now under Win8 it does not and there is no way to change this. Cannot do anything.

Re: Firing of TB dropdown entries

Posted: 14 Apr 2014 10:26
by Stef123
admin wrote:Hmm, didn't this work under XP (cannot test it now)?
Nope. Not working on XP, Vista, Win7.
It works in every other file manager (those that support user TB dropdowns) and all other programs. :? :cry:
So there must be a way to make this work?

The real problem is the tiny font size of the dropdowns in XY. That's what turns it into a problem. Try tapping a touchpad a second time and you know immediately what I am talking about. With entries so tiny and packed together, you won't be able to keep your exact position for the second tap. Same thing for pen tablets.

Re: Firing of TB dropdown entries

Posted: 14 Apr 2014 10:30
by admin
tiny font size ? The menu font size is controlled system wide AFAIK. It is the same in every app, isn't it?

Re: Firing of TB dropdown entries

Posted: 14 Apr 2014 10:36
by admin
Stef123 wrote:It works in every other file manager (those that support user TB dropdowns) and all other programs. :? :cry:
So there must be a way to make this work?
WOW, I discovered something! :beer:

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v12.50.0001 - 2013-06-14 09:31
    * All right click menus now allow using the right click to trigger 
      menu items.
This change screwed the release on mouseup! Well, I know what to do now... :twisted:

Re: Firing of TB dropdown entries

Posted: 14 Apr 2014 10:50
by Stef123
admin wrote:The menu font size is controlled system wide AFAIK. It is the same in every app, isn't it?
Not talking menu, but TB dropdowns. Don't know how others handle it, maybe they don't use the tooltip or whatever system setting is responsible for that. We already had this talk (I think) and there was nothing could be done about it. Learned to live with it on my HD screens by using smart Screen Loupes. But the touchpad or tablet does not get to see the magnified version, it triggers the actual real-size pixel locations, and misfires the "wrong" entry.
admin wrote:I know what to do now... :twisted:
That's the spirit. :beer:

Re: Firing of TB dropdown entries

Posted: 14 Apr 2014 10:51
by admin
Do you have a screenshot of this?

Re: Firing of TB dropdown entries

Posted: 14 Apr 2014 11:09
by Stef123
admin wrote:Do you have a screenshot of this?
Well, yes, sure, but you should be able to see it yourself, unless you cranked up your system font size. Besides, it's much more convincing to accidentally trigger the wrong entry yourself. If you don't have a touchpad, try a really lousy sloppy regular mouse-click.

BTW, been talking HD screens all along, the situation may be less severe (or no problem at all) on screens below HD. But I have no equipment to check up on this.

Re: Firing of TB dropdown entries

Posted: 14 Apr 2014 11:17
by admin
I have 1920 x 1080 and did not change the system defaults. All looks normal in XY. :|

Re: Firing of TB dropdown entries

Posted: 14 Apr 2014 11:41
by Stef123
Well, what can I say? Other than "normal" being a relative term.
This is what an abnormal app looks like in direct comparison:
TB_XY.png
TB SW.png
I'd be happy, however, if you could do bring back the mouse-up triggering of dropdown entries.

Re: Firing of TB dropdown entries

Posted: 14 Apr 2014 11:44
by admin
Well, apparently you are running the "Classic" theme in Windows. Your choice... :)

Re: Firing of TB dropdown entries

Posted: 14 Apr 2014 13:26
by Stef123
Well, not really my choice, but that's work-related and off topic.

You seem to indicate the situation were different if I did NOT use the classic design. But when I try an Aero design , I don't see a difference at all. Except for colors and transparency, the screenshots above look exactly the same (in terms of font size and spacing between entries).

What Windows design do I have to choose to get the desired effect in XY?

Re: Firing of TB dropdown entries

Posted: 14 Apr 2014 15:23
by admin
What you say surprises me. Classic is totally different from all other designs. I cannot answer your question.

This is how it looks in Win 8:

Re: Firing of TB dropdown entries

Posted: 14 Apr 2014 15:42
by Stef123
:cry: :cry: I don't know either. If it were on one PC only, or the same tightly packed list in other progs as well. But it only affects dropdown lists of XY, on all machines I try it on (dozens).

Anyway, it really looks OK on your shot, so I guess I have to run a default config and then see. Will do that later, too busy at the moment.

Hey, thanks a ton for fixing the mouse-release trigger. This takes care of the problem, at least on my Sony note. Full HD but on 13 " !!!
Guy next to me has even tinier fonts, he's on a Fujitsu Lifebook. Rules out many tools that don't offer big TB icons.

Your response time to user feedback (and following through on it) is superb. Outstanding. :appl: 8)

Re: Firing of TB dropdown entries

Posted: 14 Apr 2014 15:48
by admin
That was a bad bug. That it went undetected (including by myself) for almost 1 year does not make my day. Thanks for spotting it!