XYplorer Beta Club

[First time post] Win 7 x64 SP1
I have been shopping for a replacement file mgr for Windows Explorer ever since I installed Win 7. I couldn't believe how little complaints were lodged against M$ for allowing Explorer to move the position of the file tree when a folder was expanded (Whoa! Where'd it go? Up or down but never beyond the limits of the visible list.) Unacceptable! After some Googling (its a verb now!) I found that someone had discovered the problem was tied to M$ implementation of the Library feature and even showed how by making a couple of registry changes that disable the libraries how the symptom went away!
I actually use the Library feature, so I did not leave the registry changes in place. That was Oct. 2009. I was a dedicated user of the Windows version of XTreeGold V3/Norton Navigator (R.I.P.) so I knew there had to be something better available. I had been using PowerDesk Pro for awhile and even activated its feature to become the full-time replacement for WExplorer. Unfortunately, as with any other Explorer replacement that offers that feature, none of them suppress explorer for more than a few seconds before Explorer jumps right in, insisting that "hey, that's my work & I will not surrender it to any other code!". Yup, even happens with XY! It must be something I'm doing wrong! ;^)
IIRC, one of my regular PC news emails had XY featured as their 'freebie of the day', which I decided to avail myself of and downloaded the free XY and immediately took a liking to it. After using it for about a week I had one of those keyboard fumbles that occur occasionally, and after finding where the cursor went and attempting to resume work I soon discovered that any attempt to add a TAB caused XY to shut down. That's a nasty bit of work, that is. Restart XY, no good. "Reinstall" over existing install, no luck. Deleted the entire install folder losing all my settings (I know I could have saved them all, but I was pissed!). Anyway a fresh install didn't even work! Oh NO, I broke Windows! But no other programs showed any symptoms. I was not in the mood to re-install Windows.
I installed Xplorer² another dual pane FM. It has tabbed panes that were fully functional, but its implementation of flat folder browsing was not as good as XY. Drat.
After a while of playing with other goodies, I wanted to try XY again, so I downloaded the current portable version and put it on an external drive in the portable-apps folder. Same old, same old shite!
Any suggestions short of reformat/reinstall would be appreciated. Yes, I know about Fred Langa's no reformat/reinstall repair technique, but I've been burned by M$ when having a parallel "backup" install of the same OS on the same physical drive decided that was one too many. Even using EasyBCD to manage my multi-boot setup was problematic I wanted to hide the second Win partition from M$ by setting the partition table entry as empty, but that caused EasyBCD to forget about that partition totally. Even after using Testdisk to recover the partition, to this day I have not been able to get the multi-boot loader to include that partition as a bootable choice. (Is there a gray cloud following me?)
This posting probably belongs in the drinking lounge, because I think I could use one about now. Sorry for wearing out your scroll wheel!
TTFN Doc
P.S. I don't know if t has been discussed elsewhere (I haven't looked), but I REALLY appreciate that XY doesn't require explicitly touching something before making an alternate pane or the tree "live" when switching back and forth! How cool is that?

When you click on the "+" sign on the right upper side of a pane, XY quits without any message?

Just to make sure... Enter "fresh;" (without quotation marks) inside the address bar and hit enter.

A new fresh instance of XY starts. Klick on the + sign again and tell us if it quits...

Thank you for the quick response.
Placing "fresh;" then ENTER in the address box resulted in an ERROR msg "scripting is disabled" in configuration. Then TOOLS > Configuration... resulted in XY shutting down without an ERROR msg. Its not funny anymore!
I'm tempted to run M$ SFC.
[Win 7 x64 SP1]

I doubt this is a XY inherited problem but more likely one of a messed up OS.

Please show two screenshot of
Help - Various Information

1.) just via a normal mouse click on that menu entry and
2.) while holding ctrl when you click on it

DrChiron wrote:Placing "fresh;" then ENTER in the address box resulted in an ERROR msg "scripting is disabled" in configuration.

Grrr. Was it a bad idea to disable scripting by factory default?

You're probably in the best position to answer that one, but does it affect or diminish performance for newcomers to XY or could they get themselves into trouble if scripting is enabled? If not, why have it disabled.

I wanted to reduce the initial impact. There are simply too many options for a newbie.

admin wrote:

DrChiron wrote:Placing "fresh;" then ENTER in the address box resulted in an ERROR msg "scripting is disabled" in configuration.

Grrr. Was it a bad idea to disable scripting by factory default?

Could there be a bypass for a couple of cmds only, so that Fresh would work? It's the first real script thing a newbie might need here...

I'd rather offer "fresh" as a normal (nonscript) command...

I would suggest that you then do it for HELP aka RTFM too.

Borut wrote:I would suggest that you then do it for HELP aka RTFM too.

That was the other one i thought about when I said "a couple" but didn't say it..

Oops! Just lost my latest post due to trusting 'page-refresh' not to do that )^:
Greets & thanks for your patience with this patient.

Deja Vu (on this end):View-info showed that 'thou XYexe was on E:\... all support files were still on c:\users\me\...roaming\ from a previous regular install. So, I MOVED all support files to E:\portable apps\xyplorer\... rebooted but no change. At least now 'view-info' showed all files in the same folder.

I will next try: Uninstall, then dnld portable non-install XY, put that in E:\portable apps\XYplorer\ then un-rar it all and try again.
[Here I thought I was going to make life easier. )^; ]
TTFN Doc

Ta Da! All is right with the world (of XY anyway)!
Now to see if this is as good as dopus ;^)
Just teasing! I know you are seriously trying to catch up! Now about that Xmas discount...

Just bought my way in! Til death do us part! DirOpus, I ne'r knew yea. [:<{)
Now to incorporate Terra Cotta Copier. Does this thing do file differentiating?
What do you recommend? Maybe I can figure out why this pgm is soooo sloooow.
Whatdayameen banned?

DrChiron wrote:Now to see if this is as good as dopus ;^)

We think it's better than DO but then we're a bit biased...it really depends on what you need a FM to do, how the product works for your setup and the cost/value ratio...and don't forget the level/speed of support! That's an important factor as well and one that I suspect XY exceeds DO in.

Just teasing! I know you are seriously trying to catch up! Now about that Xmas discount...

Catch up? LOL! If you've noticed, it seems that DO is "adapting" features that XY has pioneered so they are the ones playing catch up maybe...and yes, there are some things that DO does that XY doesn't -but- the reverse is also true so if our set of features is more compatible with your setup/needs than it, then we win, right? If there's something DO has that we don't BUT it's nothing you'll ever need/use, then don't count that against XY either, ok?

Addendum: Re speed -- make sure it's not a AV -- see http://www.xyplorer.com/faq-topic.php?id=mse
And what is "Terra Cotta Copier"? XY now supports TeraCopy http://www.xyplorer.com/release_13.50.htm#ExCopy