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Breadcrumb
Posted: 25 Sep 2006 16:11
by jacky
Just a couple of remarks regarding this new & pretty cool feature:
- When you added the Arrow sidekick on the TB, you removed the right-click, I wish you hadn't. It just easier to aim for the full button & right-click than go for that little arrow; so just like with the back/forward buttons the right-click comes in handy I think.
- I think it'd be nice to actually have a Breadcrumb submenu on the List context menu, between Up & Back. Would be a quicker access than having to go all the way to the TB
Re: Breadcrumb
Posted: 25 Sep 2006 16:40
by j_c_hallgren
jacky wrote: It just easier to aim for the full button & right-click than go for that little arrow;
Sorry jacky, but I DEFINITELY disagree!
As I've stated in other threads, on my laptop with touchpad, I go out of my way sometimes to avoid a right-click! I'd much rather use my pad to move to the arrow, and then just tap my pad...much easier for me and less finger/thumb action!
The one thing I noticed about breadcrumb feature: When I use Cntl+Backspace, I get a "ding"/bell sound...I don't recall any other key combo in Xy causing this...
Re: Breadcrumb
Posted: 25 Sep 2006 17:06
by John Bee
- When you added the Arrow sidekick on the TB, you removed the right-click, I wish you hadn't.
I think it'd be nice to actually have a Breadcrumb submenu on the List context menu, between Up & Back. Would be a quicker access than having to go all the way to the TB
I most heartily agree on both points here.
John
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Re: Breadcrumb
Posted: 25 Sep 2006 18:58
by admin
John Bee wrote:- When you added the Arrow sidekick on the TB, you removed the right-click, I wish you hadn't.
I think it'd be nice to actually have a Breadcrumb submenu on the List context menu, between Up & Back. Would be a quicker access than having to go all the way to the TB
I most heartily agree on both points here.
Okidoki...
Re: Breadcrumb
Posted: 25 Sep 2006 19:01
by admin
j_c_hallgren wrote:jacky wrote: It just easier to aim for the full button & right-click than go for that little arrow;
Sorry jacky, but I DEFINITELY disagree!
As I've stated in other threads, on my laptop with touchpad, I go out of my way sometimes to avoid a right-click! I'd much rather use my pad to move to the arrow, and then just tap my pad...much easier for me and less finger/thumb action!
Don't panic, the other will come back but the arrow will stay.
j_c_hallgren wrote:The one thing I noticed about breadcrumb feature: When I use Cntl+Backspace, I get a "ding"/bell sound...I don't recall any other key combo in Xy causing this...
Shit!
I also noted that Shift+Backspace was not so clever neither, because it opens new tabs because of the Shift key being down. Gotta do some cleaning there... grrrmble...
Re: Breadcrumb
Posted: 25 Sep 2006 19:13
by j_c_hallgren
jacky wrote:the List context menu, between Up & Back.
jacky, bear with me...I'm having one of those senior moments
...where are you speaking of, exactly? Just a bit
Don, I'm sorry!
I didn't mean to "ring your bell" that badly
Just happened to notice the lack of silence..
Re: Breadcrumb
Posted: 25 Sep 2006 19:19
by admin
j_c_hallgren wrote:jacky wrote:the List context menu, between Up & Back.
jacky, bear with me...I'm having one of those senior moments
...where are you speaking of, exactly? Just a bit
Don, I'm sorry!
I didn't mean to "ring your bell" that badly
Just happened to notice the lack of silence..
jacky means the list's white space context menu -- you don't know it because you don't use the right mouse button and you always forget about the
context menu keyboard button!
There's another "ding"-combo: Alt+Enter, actually Alt+almost anything... it means: "no such menu accelarator found". But Ctrl+Backspace??? Why the hell does it ding? Arrgh.
Re: Breadcrumb
Posted: 25 Sep 2006 19:35
by j_c_hallgren
admin wrote:jacky means the list's white space context menu -- you don't know it because you don't use the right mouse button and you always forget about the
context menu keyboard button!
Oh..
well, in this case it was because almost all of the time, I have a file selected in list so I get the "info/rename/etc" menu on Context key...
And I never said I don't use right mouse, just that I avoid it if at all possible, as inconvenient for me...also, yes, I had "lost" the location of kkeyboard context key for years(?), but that's partially due to Dell layout with it up above F9 and left of Print Srceen...on 'real' keyboards, it's mostly to right of spacebar..the other keyboard thread a while ago helped me "find" it and now I use it more often, so..THANKS!
Posted: 26 Sep 2006 06:01
by zridling
Wow, this is truly a handy and yet one more major time-saving feature for XYplorer. When I'm downloading Usenet files by folder, sometimes they get assigned deep down in the folder's hierarchy (usually it's about 4-5 folders deep). And now all the keyboard shortcuts are aligned, too:
F7 — Backspace — SHIFT+Backspace — CTRL+Backspace — ALT+Left — ALT+Right
I can remember all of these without tasking my very ordinary brain and it's done before I ever need to touch the mouse.
Re: Breadcrumb
Posted: 26 Sep 2006 08:55
by agnul
admin wrote:There's another "ding"-combo: Alt+Enter, actually Alt+almost anything... it means: "no such menu accelarator found". But Ctrl+Backspace??? Why the hell does it ding? Arrgh.
Wait a minute there...
You mean Alt-D that I've been using blindly from the second day I installed XY to focus the address bar (firefox legacy...) dings because it's not a valid menu accelerator?
/me heads to the keyboard reference in the help file.
Re: Breadcrumb
Posted: 26 Sep 2006 09:00
by admin
agnul wrote:You mean Alt-D that I've been using blindly from the second day I installed XY to focus the address bar (firefox legacy...) dings because it's not a valid menu accelerator?
Exactly. If there were a valid menu accelerator then Alt+D would open that menu.
Re: Breadcrumb
Posted: 26 Sep 2006 09:16
by agnul
admin wrote:Exactly. If there were a valid menu accelerator then Alt+D would open that menu.
That of course begs the question... could you please promote "Alt-D" to official shortcuttedness (too early in the morning, I'm making up words
) and remove the "ding"? I've just checked the help and there's no official shortcut for "Focus address bar" yet...
If Alt-D is no shortcut of yours, why does it do what I assumed it would?
Re: Breadcrumb
Posted: 26 Sep 2006 10:18
by admin
agnul wrote:admin wrote:Exactly. If there were a valid menu accelerator then Alt+D would open that menu.
That of course begs the question... could you please promote "Alt-D" to official shortcuttedness (too early in the morning, I'm making up words
) and remove the "ding"? I've just checked the help and there's no official shortcut for "Focus address bar" yet...
If Alt-D is no shortcut of yours, why does it do what I assumed it would?
From the history:
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v4.60.0038 - 18.05.06 12:55
+ New keyboard shortcuts:
Alt+C: focus Catalog.
Alt+D: focus Address Bar.
Both ding. All ALT+Letter shortcuts are a "ding" in the ass, that's why I did not heavily promote these two in the help file. There is nothing I can do about it (it's built into the language XY is written in
).
Posted: 26 Sep 2006 11:21
by agnul
admin wrote:From the history...
Whoops,
really too early in the morning
Damn computer languages, I'll have to get used to that
Re: Breadcrumb
Posted: 26 Sep 2006 18:30
by jacky
admin wrote:John Bee wrote:- When you added the Arrow sidekick on the TB, you removed the right-click, I wish you hadn't.
I think it'd be nice to actually have a Breadcrumb submenu on the List context menu, between Up & Back. Would be a quicker access than having to go all the way to the TB
I most heartily agree on both points here.
Okidoki...
I see you haven't added the submenu, but it'll come right?