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Hi,

I "hate" myself always posting those wishes preventing Don from taking the XY grand view to the next level.

I was just pre-viewing/-filtering a huge set of photos taken during my vacations (in the Dolomites - what a great place, see attachment). While doing that I was going through a lot of folders, jumping between LMD-MDBU/RMD-MDBU and Floating Preview/Full Screen Preview. Once during this mouse-centric "workflow" there was the wish to somehow being able to trigger Floating Preview/Full Screen Preview with the mouse and one of the modifier keys.

In my setup, <ctrl>+<double-click> on an selected image file opens the windows standard program ("Windows-Fotoanzeige"). Hence, I'm wondering if there's any - simple - way to allow the XY internal previews to open on that, or a related, combination?
I haven't digged into deep conceptually yet, but maybe PFA (with its declarative configuration) can offer a "signature way" to even open all XY internal functions on definable file types.

Any opinions?


Cheers,
Filehero

PS:

Hi Filehero,
Your wish or request does indeed have much merit. When in a folder viewing photos in large thumbnail view, I'm continually bouncing in and out of MDBU or using full screen preview. I'd find it much more convenient to stay in a mouse-based method of viewing from thumbnail to a full view and be able to cycle through the photos with the mouse. I made a request quite awhile back that I thought would enhance the viewing experience. It was essentially to be able to use the mouse wheel or arrows to cycle through the pictures once a photo was in MDBU (i.e., one would press the right mouse button (set such that the picture stays up) and once blown-up you could then cycle through the pictures using the mouse wheel or arrows). I'm not sure if that would be easier for Don to program or doing something similar to what you requested. Either method would be great.

By the way, why is it <ctrl>+<double-click> which opens the picture in your default Windows program and not just double-click? Was that set up in a PFA?

By the way nice photo. I just went to Colorado to visit my daughter and took some nice photos of the Rockies. Unfortunately, I didn't have my new camera, a Fugifilm X100S. It just came yesterday after a month wait on backorder.

I see the use but no really cool way currently.

I haven't digged into deep conceptually yet, but maybe PFA (with its declarative configuration) can offer a "signature way" to even open all XY internal functions on definable file types.

Did not fully understsand this. Example?

Love the photo!

Hi Ken, hi Don,

just to make clear again: this is no urgent stuff, but may help to streamline XY even more in the long run (you know, the "S-Klasse"-dilemma... ).

klownboy wrote:It was essentially to be able to use the mouse wheel or arrows to cycle through the pictures once a photo was in MDBU (i.e., one would press the right mouse button (set such that the picture stays up) and once blown-up you could then cycle through the pictures using the mouse wheel or arrows).

Since Floating Preview & Full Screen Preview already support navigation with arrow keys and mouse wheel () it's the "Sticky"-MDBU which appears to be a kind of an "unfinished" hybrid. I think I now know why (at least for me). Just from its name, it exactly does what it claims to do, an persistent blow-up of the image currently selected in the list. My "problem" is, as soon as the image keeps staying there and staring at me without much thinking I immediately want to jump to the next one using the mouse wheel, though I know it's not meant to do so.

klownboy wrote:By the way, why is it <ctrl>+<double-click> which opens the picture in your default Windows program and not just double-click? Was that set up in a PFA?

No, I just noticed in my test that double-clicking with and without <ctrl> does the same, opening the program associated with the file type in the Windows registry, leaving <ctrl> as an option to XY for "overloading" double-clicking.

admin wrote:

I haven't digged into deep conceptually yet, but maybe PFA (with its declarative configuration) can offer a "signature way" to even open all XY internal functions on definable file types.

Did not fully understsand this. Example?

Sure.

1. Making PFA supporting Floating Preview & Full Screen Preview as a target program (that's the concrete wish).

2. I know there is the POM, but I think making the PFAs being triggered only by the <ctrl>-modifier (+<double-click) / +<enter>) could help improve the experience. W/o <ctrl> always let Windows handles the file action, with <ctrl> let always XY take care (of course, delegating to Windows once there is no PFA defined). It adds nothing really new to the table, but offers an alternative way. Simple to remember (Sic! ), global and consistent.

klownboy wrote:By the way nice photo. I just went to Colorado to visit my daughter and took some nice photos of the Rockies. Unfortunately I didn't have my new camera, a Fugifilm X100S. I just came yesterday.

admin wrote:Love the photo!

Thanks for the kind words.

<OT>Fortunately, on this trip I seem to have done some more good shots. Unfortunately, the image posted suffers from a significant back-focus (had to sharpen it excessively). I hope the entire series isn't busted.....
The X100S has become a great camera, but still has the fixed lens. I guess I still have to wait for the X-E1S (the EVF of the X-E1 sadly isn't on par). Maybe I go for a X20 or an Sony RX100 by then.</OT>


Cheers,
Filehero

Hi Filehero, I can't remember if you use AutoHotkey at all, but a very simple AHK script will open the image in Full Screen preview or Floating preview. It actually works quite nicely and is going in my start-up AHK file.Edit: I used Left CTRL (only) to allow editing a CTB with right CTRL along with the right mouse button).

I realized the drawbacks in choosing the Fugi X100S, but I wanted a decent quality camera that was easy to lug around on all these trips. I'm sure I'll miss zoom capability. The more I thought about it though, I figure it's taking a picture of what I'm actually seeing with my eyes and what I'll remember and not a zoom-in of what I saw. I'll probably buy an SLR or some other hybrid at some point in a couple of years or even sooner. So far I'm loving it...what gorgeous pictures. Take care,
Ken

Filehero wrote:1. Making PFA supporting Floating Preview & Full Screen Preview as a target program (that's the concrete wish).

I'll think about it. One possibility (because PFA supports scripts as targets) would be a new SC FloatingPreview which has already been wished via email. There are some problems with it yet, but I might be able to solve them... That way one could preview images without the need of browsing to them first -- quite cool IMO...

Hi Ken,

klownboy wrote:Hi Filehero, I can't remember if you use AutoHotkey at all, ...

no, I don't use it. But one never knows what the future brings, therefore thanks for your snippet.


Cheers,
Filehero

While not exactly what you asked, I still post this because not everyone may be aware of this tweak (so great it should be in Config!): middle-click to open image in Floating or FullScreen Preview:

Filehero wrote:MDBU (...) My "problem" is, as soon as the image keeps staying there and staring at me without much thinking I immediately want to jump to the next one using the mouse wheel

Guilty as charged too!

Thanks Flux, that's another tweak I totally forgot about and the embarrassing thing is I had it set already to "3" to view using Full Screen Preview with the middle click and it does work fine.

As someone who may either have a physical middle mouse button or a simulated one through software (e.g., Logitech in my case), have you ever tried or have you been able to get the middle mouse button to trigger a command in a CTB using if (<get trigger> == 4) {commands...}. I have scripts that use both left and right, but I've had no luck actual getting the middle mouse button to trigger in scripting a CTB. Yet my middle mouse does give me the Full Screen Preview in the above tweak. I've been meaning to ask that question to anyone on the forum.
Thanks,
Ken

klownboy wrote:Thanks Flux, that's another tweak I totally forgot about ....

Dito.

Still thinking about, wether my core wish has become obsolete now.