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Visual Filter History
Posted: 15 Sep 2006 15:15
by allen
Visual filter history can be accessed via the dropdown when applying a visual filter (ctrl+j) -- however trying to expand the list with the keyboard only displays the active filter. The rest are accessible only by mouse.
Also, is there any way presently to protect items in the list editors? For example, there are a few visual folders I'd like to ensure don't get over-written over time -- a toggle to protect items would be neat, or maybe just append something to the start of the string to mark it as protected. Something like:
^*.htm;*.html;*.php;
Re: Visual Filter History
Posted: 15 Sep 2006 17:51
by jacky
allen wrote:Visual filter history can be accessed via the dropdown when applying a visual filter (ctrl+j) -- however trying to expand the list with the keyboard only displays the active filter. The rest are accessible only by mouse.
hmm.. Both lists should be available: using the arrows will bring up the autocomplete list (in blue), pressing F4 will bring the MRU list.
allen wrote:Also, is there any way presently to protect items in the list editors?
No, but you could create Catalog items for thoose VF you use a lot. For example, create a Catalig item with: |*.php;*.htm;*.html
Clicking on this item would activate the VF for the current location

Re: Visual Filter History
Posted: 15 Sep 2006 18:09
by allen
jacky wrote:allen wrote:Visual filter history can be accessed via the dropdown when applying a visual filter (ctrl+j) -- however trying to expand the list with the keyboard only displays the active filter. The rest are accessible only by mouse.
hmm.. Both lists should be available: using the arrows will bring up the autocomplete list (in blue), pressing F4 will bring the MRU list.
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As I said, I understand that this
should be the case, however it is not. Or maybe I'm missing something . . . why would the autocomplete list be only one item? When I use the arrow key, the list pops up with [/i]only the current item[/i] selectable. With the mouse, the list pops up in full. The screenshots shown below were taken moments from one another, no changes made to the view filter history. Each time I use the arrow keys, the menu is truncated to 1. Each time I use the mouse it is shown in full.
Using arrow keys to extend the dropdown:
Using the mouse to extend the dropdown:
I don't understand the distinction between the arrow keys (which are typical for extending dropdowns) and F4.
Edit: The list that pops up when I hit F4 -is- the autocomplete list (as well as the same list that pops up when I hit the drop down error.). This makes me believe moreso that, as originally stated, the single menu item that appears when I use the keyboard and hit up/down is in error.
Posted: 15 Sep 2006 20:49
by jacky
hmm... Ok, so first:
- MRU (Most Recently Used) list is what you get when using the mouse on the dropdown list, or when pressing F4. Items are in black.
- Autocomplete list is not available via mouse, only when typing stuff, or using arrow keys. Items are in blue.
Using the arrow keys might "usually" be used to get the content of the dropdpwn list, aka here the MRU. However in XY it will bring the autocomplete list so what you get matches what you've typed so far.
Hence the F4, to bring the full MRU without using your mouse if you want to.
I beleive that what's happening here for you is, using the mouse you get the (full) MRU, normal. You would get the same using F4.
Using the keys you only get one item as it is the only one that matches what's typed so far (it's an autocomplete list here!

). For example, if you remove what's typed (*.csv) and then press the down key, you'll get the full autocomplete list. And you'll see that items in this list are in written blue (when not selected like in your screenshots)
Bottom line: either press F4 instead of using the arrows, or remove the last char(s) of what's typed until you get more item (remove all to get the full list), cause it's the autocomplete list you get using arrows, so what is in the list is only what's matching what's typed so far

Posted: 16 Sep 2006 07:15
by admin
Adding to jacky's remarks:
(a) F4 not something XY-specific (I did not implement it) but works OS-driven: if exactly one drop-down is (I guess that's the rule) F4 will open its MRU list.
(b) Also implemented by the OS: ALT+ArrowDown (or ALT+ArrowUp, it's the same) will open the drop-down MRU that has the focus.
(c) That ArrowDown (or ArrowUp) opens the Match List (and not the MRU List) is as well not an invention of XY (although in this case I had to implement it). If ouy look at EXplorer's Address Bar: it's exactly the same!
(d) Currently, ArrowDown (or ArrowUp) does nothing if Auto-Complete is turned off in the Configuration/General. I will change this: it will walk through the MRU list in the next version.
Posted: 16 Sep 2006 12:59
by allen
Thanks for the clarification, I see what's going on now. I'd forgotten about F4 as an option, I fear I may have fallen into a trend of laziness :D