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Re: ZIP Support (so I can finally retire "PowerDersk Pro")

Posted: 26 Jun 2013 20:39
by admin
avsfan wrote:Don, Could you please add the ability to drop a file on an existing zip to add it there? That's something that would be a big plus for me!

Thanks!
I think I can. I'll check later... I will also try to add "Paste Into Zip" to a ZIP's context menu.

Re: ZIP Support (so I can finally retire "PowerDersk Pro")

Posted: 26 Jun 2013 20:42
by avsfan
admin wrote:
avsfan wrote:Don, Could you please add the ability to drop a file on an existing zip to add it there? That's something that would be a big plus for me!

Thanks!
I think I can. I'll check later... I will also try to add "Paste Into Zip" to a ZIP's context menu.
Excellent -- those will both be very useful!

Thanks again!

Re: ZIP Support (so I can finally retire "PowerDersk Pro")

Posted: 26 Jun 2013 22:34
by nerdweed
admin wrote:(Just a little note from the can of worms: Of course, if WinRAR is installed then it is simple to support RAR via command line.)
Would be great.
But to keep the true sense of portability, a custom archiving tool would be better. This would allow to use portable archiving tool as well.

Re: ZIP Support (so I can finally retire "PowerDersk Pro")

Posted: 27 Jun 2013 05:01
by Nighted
I agree with the "can of worms" analogy.

XYplorer dev has put much effort into portable file icons, portable file extensions, maybe it's time for a portable shell menu.
Then users can easily build their own menus using those portable programs, such as 7zip for example, and keep XY simple and power minus the bloat.

BTW, this new zip feature does not work for me, it just creates empty directories on archive and extract. Hopefully, if implemented, there will be an option to remove this from XY's context menu as I can easily create my own archive tools using the catalog or through XY's powerful scripting.

However, the ability to preview archives (not just zips, I don't use zip, only 7z and rar) would be a welcomed feature.

Re: ZIP Support (so I can finally retire "PowerDersk Pro")

Posted: 27 Jun 2013 07:29
by admin
Nighted wrote:XYplorer dev has put much effort into portable file icons, portable file extensions, maybe it's time for a portable shell menu.
Then users can easily build their own menus using those portable programs, such as 7zip for example, and keep XY simple and power minus the bloat.
You can do that already now using the "Open With..." command in the XYplorer custom section at the top of the shell context menu. "Open With..." opens the POM (Portable Openwith Menu) which has full scripting support.
Nighted wrote:BTW, this new zip feature does not work for me, it just creates empty directories on archive and extract. Hopefully, if implemented, there will be an option to remove this from XY's context menu as I can easily create my own archive tools using the catalog or through XY's powerful scripting.
:shock: Oh. Anybody else?
Nighted wrote:However, the ability to preview archives (not just zips, I don't use zip, only 7z and rar) would be a welcomed feature.
Pure preview would be possible for those formats, but without the possibility of extraction it will mean trouble (for the user and me).

Re: ZIP Support (so I can finally retire "PowerDersk Pro")

Posted: 27 Jun 2013 10:16
by eil
Nighted wrote:BTW, this new zip feature does not work for me, it just creates empty directories on archive and extract. Hopefully, if implemented, there will be an option to remove this from XY's context menu as I can easily create my own archive tools using the catalog or through XY's powerful scripting.
:shock: Oh. Anybody else?
Nighted wrote:However, the ability to preview archives (not just zips, I don't use zip, only 7z and rar) would be a welcomed feature.
Pure preview would be possible for those formats, but without the possibility of extraction it will mean trouble (for the user and me).[/quote]
it seem to work partly= i managed to extract with right-drag, but coldn't create from clipboard. yet, i can't see entry in context to extract|create..

preview for those formats would be wonderful!! for extract i have WinRAR, but opening each time is so looong.

Re: ZIP Support (so I can finally retire "PowerDersk Pro")

Posted: 27 Jun 2013 10:17
by eil
admin wrote:
Nighted wrote:BTW, this new zip feature does not work for me, it just creates empty directories on archive and extract. Hopefully, if implemented, there will be an option to remove this from XY's context menu as I can easily create my own archive tools using the catalog or through XY's powerful scripting.
:shock: Oh. Anybody else?
Nighted wrote:However, the ability to preview archives (not just zips, I don't use zip, only 7z and rar) would be a welcomed feature.
Pure preview would be possible for those formats, but without the possibility of extraction it will mean trouble (for the user and me).
it seem to work partly= i managed to extract with right-drag, but coldn't create from clipboard. yet, i can't see entry in context to extract|create..

preview for those formats would be wonderful!! for extract i have WinRAR, but opening each time is so looong.[/quote]

Re: ZIP Support (so I can finally retire "PowerDersk Pro")

Posted: 27 Jun 2013 10:21
by admin
You mean opening a RAR file takes looong? Not here. And I never said I can read the contents of RAR faster than RAR itself.

Re: ZIP Support (so I can finally retire "PowerDersk Pro")

Posted: 27 Jun 2013 10:29
by eil
admin wrote:You mean opening a RAR file takes looong? Not here. And I never said I can read the contents of RAR faster than RAR itself.
example= i have 20+ rar and have to open each to just see what is in there -maybe it's not really long, but very fast it becomes boring. :whistle: if you do, preview for archives would be a great feature!. ofcourse there will appeare users asking for extract, but that can wait for later. :wink:

Re: ZIP Support (so I can finally retire "PowerDersk Pro")

Posted: 27 Jun 2013 10:37
by admin
Ah, got it. :)

The main trouble with the preview is the following: I currently have no list with columns/headers. :om: :whistle: The main file list is too heavy and not really re-usable because it is optimized for the job it does. And my small list, well it has no columns/headers yet. Of course, I can write it but it is boring and takes time to reach perfection (resize, sorting, blah). :blackstorm: All this is because I do not use MS standard controls in XY: all controls are written by myself -- because I'm a control freak, LOL. So I have to wait until I feel like doing this boring thing... ultimately it will be worth it because I could use some columns in other lists in XY as well.

Re: ZIP Support (so I can finally retire "PowerDersk Pro")

Posted: 27 Jun 2013 11:10
by grindax
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Re: ZIP Support (so I can finally retire "PowerDersk Pro")

Posted: 27 Jun 2013 11:19
by Borut
grindax wrote:What if XY could eliminate the first step by providing some indication on the context menu option 'Extract Here' that the zip file contains a folder at it's top level?
+1! (Indication that it contains exclusively one folder on the top level.)

Re: ZIP Support (so I can finally retire "PowerDersk Pro")

Posted: 27 Jun 2013 11:25
by admin
Not bad! I'll check if I can do that...

Re: ZIP Support (so I can finally retire "PowerDersk Pro")

Posted: 27 Jun 2013 12:38
by admin
Yeah, works well. Very useful! :cup: :biggrin:

Re: ZIP Support (so I can finally retire "PowerDersk Pro")

Posted: 27 Jun 2013 13:03
by Borut
admin wrote:The main trouble with the preview is the following: I currently have no list with columns/headers. [...] And my small list, well it has no columns/headers yet. Of course, I can write it but it is boring and takes time to reach perfection (resize, sorting, blah). [...] So I have to wait until I feel like doing this boring thing... ultimately it will be worth it because I could use some columns in other lists in XY as well.
Ehmm, while you wait, and since the general direction is away from the main file list to a smart small list, why not an intermediate solution: a plain contents dump in some edit/string list component.