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j_c_hallgren wrote:

admin wrote:I have a somehow related question: When tab is closed, should "its history" be deleted?

I would definitely prefer for it to remain intact, as I tend to have two tabs open most all the time, and open up temp "working" tabs as needed, so having that history avail when I reopen that/those tab makes using it easier.

admin wrote:I have a somehow related question: When tab is closed, should "its history" be deleted?

admin wrote:Okay, but know that history from closed tabs will be "orphaned" -- it will not be part of any tab's history but only part of global history.

PeterH wrote:

admin wrote:I have a somehow related question: When tab is closed, should "its history" be deleted?

Maybe a question more to programming than to using XY? Or a questions to what views we have on history?

In a global history view, as is now, I think nothing should be deleted if closing a tab. Globally this is part of your history.
In a (currently not available?) view of "current-tab-history" the current tab cannot be a closed tab.
But there also could be a history-list for a selectable tab (i.e. not the local tab) - this could be a closed tab, too. (But maybe problems after closing and opening a tab?)

All this would supply maximum flexibility to the user - but require kind of tab-specific views.
(And I would like history-list by tab!)

admin wrote:

serendipity wrote:I just started to extensively use this feature and i should say its awesome. Thanks for implementing this Don. .
Some thoughts though:
1) Yep, LM would be nice. How about a button in LM|history called sort tab-wise? Or simply a right-click on the existing sort button? Thinking loud.
2) Based on what you said here, how about "close-tab-go-to-previously-used-tab" and ctrl+tab cycles to previously used tab rather than going right.

1) Not easily possible. And I'm not sure what should be achieved by this. For me the history is a trace of action, so manipulating it defeats its very nature in a way. For hand-chosen permanent pointers to locations we have favorites of all sorts...

admin wrote: 2) Somehow my workstyle is different (I was always happy with a global history), so you need to explain the use and context of this thing, and how it should be implemented (are you thinking of a new config option, or of an additional command?).

admin wrote: I have a somehow related question: When tab is closed, should "its history" be deleted?

admin wrote: 2) Somehow my workstyle is different (I was always happy with a global history), so you need to explain the use and context of this thing, and how it should be implemented (are you thinking of a new config option, or of an additional command?).

serendipity wrote: OK, when working with several tabs I often go back and forth across tabs to check files sizes, contents and other things. Sometimes I dont pay attention which tab i clicked first and i have to click few tabs to find out where I was in the first place. Instead if ctrl+tab could take me to previous used tab then I can easily trace back to my original tab. So instead of cycling thru tabs in a sequential way, I am asking for cycling thru them based on MRU tab.

Pagat wrote:

admin wrote: 2) Somehow my workstyle is different (I was always happy with a global history), so you need to explain the use and context of this thing, and how it should be implemented (are you thinking of a new config option, or of an additional command?).

serendipity wrote: OK, when working with several tabs I often go back and forth across tabs to check files sizes, contents and other things. Sometimes I dont pay attention which tab i clicked first and i have to click few tabs to find out where I was in the first place. Instead if ctrl+tab could take me to previous used tab then I can easily trace back to my original tab. So instead of cycling thru tabs in a sequential way, I am asking for cycling thru them based on MRU tab.

That is something i'd like to see too
In an older thread i also tried to explain why this could be useful. It starts here:

http://www.xyplorer.com/xyfc/viewtopic. ... 808#p16808

admin wrote:I think the thread you are pointing to shows that people might have different ideas about what "recently used order" is.

Say I have three tabs, 1,2,3, and I select them in order 1,2,3,2,3,2,3,2,3 what will going back in MRU order mean for you? 2,3,2,3,2,3,2,1? Or 2,3,1?

admin wrote:Say I have three tabs, 1,2,3, and I select them in order 1,2,3,2,3,2,3,2,3 what will going back in MRU order mean for you? 2,3,2,3,2,3,2,1? Or 2,3,1?

Pagat wrote:

admin wrote:Say I have three tabs, 1,2,3, and I select them in order 1,2,3,2,3,2,3,2,3 what will going back in MRU order mean for you? 2,3,2,3,2,3,2,1? Or 2,3,1?

The behaviour i would like to have is exactly like Windows Alt+Tab: Every tab that is opened will go to position one in MRU and every tab is only shown once in the MRU list. So in your example i'm on tab 3 in the end. Ideally (for me ) Ctrl-Tab should work the following:

Scenario 1:
Pressing Ctrl+Tab and releasing both keys will show tab 2. Do it again will bring you back to tab 3 -> You could switch back and forth between two tabs.

Scenario 2:
Pressing Ctrl+Tab+Tab (Press Tab twice while holding Ctrl) will show tab 1.

admin wrote:Could it be that your main interest is a KS to jump back + forth between this and the last tab. This has been removed from the app some time ago. I could add it again easily.

Pagat wrote:

admin wrote:Could it be that your main interest is a KS to jump back + forth between this and the last tab. This has been removed from the app some time ago. I could add it again easily.

If i'm interested in only two folders i always use F7 (Go to previous location) as a "workaround". Somehow i missed that there was a KS to switch between the last two tabs.

F7 is good enough if there are only two folders of interest but in my usual workflow nothing beats "Alt+Tab" behaviour for switching between tabs (i use it massively in Opera and UltraEdit for example and, of course, in Windows itself ).

admin wrote:F7 won't help if the last two locations were on the same tab.

admin wrote:I re-added the command to jump to the last tab. Must be enough for now.

admin wrote:F7 won't help if the last two locations were on the same tab. I re-added the command to jump to the last tab. Must be enough for now.

//Close tab
   #351;
//Go to previous tab
   #1060;