XYplorer Beta Club

highend wrote: ↑05 Sep 2023 12:52 Extending the icons to the right side (as an option) would be a working solution as well (you can still tell they belong to the tree because of the border of the hovered folder there)

Not possible. As it's done now the glider must be within the tree.

zakhar wrote: ↑05 Sep 2023 12:57 I often come into the space somewhere between folders and do not see the Glider,
so that it is not "using Glider", it is "searching for and catching Glider".

Don't understand. There is no inactive space in between.

Not possible. As it's done now the glider must be within the tree.

Then it's unusable if you have a narrow tree

admin wrote: ↑05 Sep 2023 13:33

zakhar wrote: ↑05 Sep 2023 12:57 space somewhere between folders

no inactive space in between

This is the consequnce of the too narrow activation area.
May be technically there is no horizontal space between folders,
but if the mouse cursor is placed very near of the invisible or imaginable horizontal border line (see the screenshot),
then I say the mouse cursor is placed between folders.

highend wrote: ↑05 Sep 2023 14:16 Then it's unusable if you have a narrow tree

Wait for the next beta...

zakhar wrote: ↑05 Sep 2023 14:46 then I say the mouse cursor is placed between folders.

Cannot reproduce.

Appetizer...

The last beta is awesome, I only wish an option for the Glider to be static - not moving away from me, always in the same place, basically to turn off this:

The glider will now appear at a position where the mouse pointer is over its non-clickable area to prevent accidental clicks.

Never made an accidental click, but I made a lot of missed clicks since above was added.

Too risky.

What is the button you want to click right away?

I'm really liking beta 24.90.0106 so many options like going vertical. Info for others, to load a script file, use the same syntax you see in the ini file for CEAs:
GliderScript="load "D:\Tools\XYplorer\Scripts\TabsHomeCloseRightofRoaming.xys""

admin wrote: ↑05 Sep 2023 16:51 What is the button you want to click right away?

Right now, it's a script button (browse subfolders with menuApp.exe), but it's easier to hit any button, when they are always at exactly the same pixel space.

Btw, Glider stays open when I click the script button. Maybe because I use an app which shows a menu when launched? EDIT: It's probably because it steals the focus from XY.

I know. I'm not sure if that's a good thing.

PS: the focus steal was a bug. Fix comes.

I like it. :-)

Nevertheless, I'm still thinking about a way how to offer new (feature) users a hint to the activation zone (of course, only when activated). Maybe some faint something can be shown when hovering over the tree nodes (the labels or a certain region).

It's less of a wish, more about the challenge to point to something (unusual) yet invisible. But maybe it's a dead end and waste of brain effort.

Really like all the options in latest beta, changing shape is especially cool! the only thing left uncomfortable for me is targetting:
1. Targetting exactly most left or most right sometimes means to move quite far from actual folder(when your tree is not narrow). Funny thing is, unlike highend, i'd say current implementation best works with narrow tree, as it gets activated only on borders which is not on the item but rather close to it.
2. No visual clue where to target for menu to appear, and if you're still targetting same item while moving cursor to most-left/-right border. I'd say if user already activated the feature, one would want to have better "visual targetting" = where and what exactly is the active zone.

Additional things IMO may be considered to add:
- when nothing is selected in List, all buttons are disabled = so when hovering on buttons, tips probably should say smth like "Nothing is selected in List" to let user understand why those are greyed-out;
- right-click on buttons still does an action, while it should either do nothing or maybe call usual right-click on folder menu;
- after left-clicked on some button and operation happened, maybe Glider should hide depicting that you actually did that action = when glider stay as if you didn't click anything, it looks like nothing ever happened. Surely if user moves cursor away and back on same position Gliderwould again show for same folder.