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Re: Support for Portable Devices
Posted: 08 Jan 2015 14:44
by Filehero
PeterH wrote:Just a short report: Nikon D300
Ah good, thanks for this reminder!
Pentax K-5, with USB-submodes
- PTP (Picture Transfer Protocol)
The camera overall behaves like the Windows 8.1 phone. In the tree it inserts with a (nice) camera icon displaying the sd card adding the removable drive icon as a child. The sizes are "0" and browsing the list is 'lousy'. It also can be de-tree'd by hitting <F5> (see below)
MSC (Mass Storage Class)
Now, and wow, that's a different game. Almost instanteous browsing in the list, sizes are there - just like browsing my HD. Consistent with the protocol there is no notion of a camera, it simply gets mounted as a removable drive (by a removable drive icon). Additionally, this mode exhibits no <F5>-sensitivity.
As for my already reported findings
<F5>-Sensitivity
It's clearly reproducable over here: with a
PTP/MTP-protocol hitting <F5> triggers removing the device from the tree. It does not happen with WE.
I really wonder why I'm the only one observing this so far.
Locked tree expansion
Happens with a xTP-protocol only: with an active tab pointing to a
location!=portable device plugging in or off the portable device makes the locked tree unlocked and expanding the full path of the current active non-portable tab.
Functional improvement
Add support for
list refresh upon unlock. Currently, when a locked device is unlocked after being plugged in, you need to hit <F5> manually to refresh the list. WE does this automatically upon unlock.
Cheers,
Filehero
Re: Support for Portable Devices
Posted: 08 Jan 2015 16:15
by admin
PeterH wrote:Just a short report: Nikon D300
Setting "Mass Storage": still OK
(Works as if it's an external drive)
Setting "MTP/PTP"
- you said it: slooow (but don't mind (in the beginning)!)
- easy to see all the folder structure
- when selecting a lowest-level folder (where the pictures are in) it takes very much time, and doesn't show activity - you really might expect it hangs. But after some time the filelist is shown.
OK: time for a folder is dependent of number of contained files - and this folder has 1250 files
Takes about 70sec - without hint of any activity.
Next folder 302 files: ~20sec. But this time: after ~5sec "Prog antwortet nicht" and cursor starts cycling.
Delays sometimes are rather long - and bad if you might expect that nothing will happen.
(By the way: connection by USB2.)
Next version might be a little better.
Re: Support for Portable Devices
Posted: 08 Jan 2015 17:54
by grindax
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Re: Support for Portable Devices
Posted: 08 Jan 2015 18:20
by admin
Well. I know no other way to get the icon. Enlightment might come any time.
BTW, you can browse the contents of your iPhone with XY now?
Re: Support for Portable Devices
Posted: 08 Jan 2015 18:59
by aliteralmind
admin wrote:BTW, you can browse the contents of your iPhone with XY now?
I can browse my iPod shuffle, and play songs. Just tried it a couple times, but my impression was it was very responsive.
Re: Support for Portable Devices
Posted: 08 Jan 2015 19:00
by grindax
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Re: Support for Portable Devices
Posted: 08 Jan 2015 19:03
by admin
aliteralmind wrote:admin wrote:BTW, you can browse the contents of your iPhone with XY now?
I can browse my iPod shuffle, and play songs. Just tried it a couple times, but my impression was it was very responsive.
You can play songs in XY? I did not code that yet...
Re: Support for Portable Devices
Posted: 08 Jan 2015 19:13
by aliteralmind
admin wrote:You can play songs in XY? I did not code that yet...
Double clicking on an mp3 launches Audacity as it should.
Re: Support for Portable Devices
Posted: 08 Jan 2015 19:19
by grindax
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Re: Support for Portable Devices
Posted: 08 Jan 2015 19:24
by Filehero
Filehero wrote:<F5>-Sensitivity
Fixed with v14.80.0006 (since no explicit ref in the change log: is the fix a side-effect?)
Locked tree expansion
Fixed with v14.80.0006
Btw, "Allgemein hierarchisch" is a rather funny
Type. Wouldn't "MTP" or "PTP" be more accurate (assumed that it is detectable)?
Re: Support for Portable Devices
Posted: 08 Jan 2015 19:40
by admin
Filehero wrote:Filehero wrote:<F5>-Sensitivity
Fixed with v14.80.0006 (since no explicit ref in the change log: is the fix a side-effect?)
Locked tree expansion
Fixed with v14.80.0006
Btw, "Allgemein hierarchisch" is a rather funny
Type. Wouldn't "MTP" or "PTP" be more accurate (assumed that it is detectable)?
No, that was a fix with sweat, just did not mention it. (saving energy)
"Allgemein hierarchisch" -- not my invention, I just report what the device tells me...
Re: Support for Portable Devices
Posted: 08 Jan 2015 21:58
by PeterH
admin wrote:Next version might be a little better.
I'd say timing as slow as before - but now you have better
hints to what is happening (turning circle, no "Keine Antwort", current list cleared when selecting another folder)
Had a look at how WE handles this. Timing roughly is comparable (i.e. bad, but just rough compare). But: list is built dynamically - so you
see what's happening. Gives a much better feeling...
Re: Support for Portable Devices
Posted: 08 Jan 2015 22:22
by Filehero
PeterH wrote:Had a look at how WE handles this. Timing roughly is comparable (i.e. bad, but just rough compare).
I have the feel, that the first folder listing is faster in WE, from the 2nd they're nearly on par (W8.1). It isn't mission critical, anyway.
More important: with 14.80.0006 I got several "XYplorer funktioniert nicht mehr" messages so far. I've failed to nail it down yet, but it requires the active tab pointing to the p-device followed by a plug off. Will continue to observe.
Re: Support for Portable Devices
Posted: 08 Jan 2015 23:38
by Borut
Here is my report about the status under WinXP SP3, with WMP 11.0.5721.5280 installed and "Show Portable Devices" option in XY 14.80.0006 checked:
Case 1: Samsung Tablet (GT-N8000, Android 4.1.2)
A "Shared" icon without a title appears in tree and list. (Double)clicking it in list has no effect. Expanding it in tree shows a messed up sub-hierarchy. Clicking on the GT-N8000 node shows empty list. Here two screenshots to compare XY and WE:
- MTP_XY.jpg (33.02 KiB) Viewed 2700 times
- MTP_WE.jpg (26.61 KiB) Viewed 2700 times
Case 2: Nikon Coolpix L20 camera
Nothing happens/appears.
Re: Support for Portable Devices
Posted: 09 Jan 2015 07:36
by admin
OK, that makes it obvious: No support here for XP, sorry.