Support for Portable Devices

[Filehero]

Just a short report: Nikon D300

Ah good, thanks for this reminder!

Pentax K-5, with USB-submodes

• PTP (Picture Transfer Protocol)
  The camera overall behaves like the Windows 8.1 phone. In the tree it inserts with a (nice) camera icon displaying the sd card adding the removable drive icon as a child. The sizes are "0" and browsing the list is 'lousy'. It also can be de-tree'd by hitting <F5> (see below)
  
  MSC (Mass Storage Class)
  Now, and wow, that's a different game. Almost instanteous browsing in the list, sizes are there - just like browsing my HD. Consistent with the protocol there is no notion of a camera, it simply gets mounted as a removable drive (by a removable drive icon). Additionally, this mode exhibits no <F5>-sensitivity.

As for my already reported findings

<F5>-Sensitivity
It's clearly reproducable over here: with a PTP/MTP-protocol hitting <F5> triggers removing the device from the tree. It does not happen with WE.
I really wonder why I'm the only one observing this so far.

Locked tree expansion
Happens with a xTP-protocol only: with an active tab pointing to a location!=portable device plugging in or off the portable device makes the locked tree unlocked and expanding the full path of the current active non-portable tab.


Functional improvement
Add support for list refresh upon unlock. Currently, when a locked device is unlocked after being plugged in, you need to hit <F5> manually to refresh the list. WE does this automatically upon unlock.


Cheers,
Filehero

[admin]

Just a short report: Nikon D300

Setting "Mass Storage": still OK (Works as if it's an external drive)

Setting "MTP/PTP"
- you said it: slooow (but don't mind (in the beginning)!)
- easy to see all the folder structure
- when selecting a lowest-level folder (where the pictures are in) it takes very much time, and doesn't show activity - you really might expect it hangs. But after some time the filelist is shown.

OK: time for a folder is dependent of number of contained files - and this folder has 1250 files Takes about 70sec - without hint of any activity.
Next folder 302 files: ~20sec. But this time: after ~5sec "Prog antwortet nicht" and cursor starts cycling.

Delays sometimes are rather long - and bad if you might expect that nothing will happen.

(By the way: connection by USB2.)

Next version might be a little better.

[grindax]

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[admin]

Well. I know no other way to get the icon. Enlightment might come any time.

BTW, you can browse the contents of your iPhone with XY now?

[aliteralmind]

BTW, you can browse the contents of your iPhone with XY now?

I can browse my iPod shuffle, and play songs. Just tried it a couple times, but my impression was it was very responsive.

[grindax]

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[admin]

BTW, you can browse the contents of your iPhone with XY now?

I can browse my iPod shuffle, and play songs. Just tried it a couple times, but my impression was it was very responsive.

You can play songs in XY? I did not code that yet...

[aliteralmind]

You can play songs in XY? I did not code that yet...

Double clicking on an mp3 launches Audacity as it should.

[grindax]

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[Filehero]

<F5>-Sensitivity

Fixed with v14.80.0006 (since no explicit ref in the change log: is the fix a side-effect?)

Locked tree expansion

Fixed with v14.80.0006



Btw, "Allgemein hierarchisch" is a rather funny Type. Wouldn't "MTP" or "PTP" be more accurate (assumed that it is detectable)?

[admin]

<F5>-Sensitivity

Fixed with v14.80.0006 (since no explicit ref in the change log: is the fix a side-effect?)

Locked tree expansion

Fixed with v14.80.0006



Btw, "Allgemein hierarchisch" is a rather funny Type. Wouldn't "MTP" or "PTP" be more accurate (assumed that it is detectable)?

No, that was a fix with sweat, just did not mention it. (saving energy)

"Allgemein hierarchisch" -- not my invention, I just report what the device tells me...

[PeterH]

Next version might be a little better.

I'd say timing as slow as before - but now you have better hints to what is happening (turning circle, no "Keine Antwort", current list cleared when selecting another folder)

Had a look at how WE handles this. Timing roughly is comparable (i.e. bad, but just rough compare). But: list is built dynamically - so you see what's happening. Gives a much better feeling...

[Filehero]

Had a look at how WE handles this. Timing roughly is comparable (i.e. bad, but just rough compare).

I have the feel, that the first folder listing is faster in WE, from the 2nd they're nearly on par (W8.1). It isn't mission critical, anyway.

More important: with 14.80.0006 I got several "XYplorer funktioniert nicht mehr" messages so far. I've failed to nail it down yet, but it requires the active tab pointing to the p-device followed by a plug off. Will continue to observe.

[Borut]

Here is my report about the status under WinXP SP3, with WMP 11.0.5721.5280 installed and "Show Portable Devices" option in XY 14.80.0006 checked:

Case 1: Samsung Tablet (GT-N8000, Android 4.1.2)

A "Shared" icon without a title appears in tree and list. (Double)clicking it in list has no effect. Expanding it in tree shows a messed up sub-hierarchy. Clicking on the GT-N8000 node shows empty list. Here two screenshots to compare XY and WE:

MTP_XY.jpg (33.02 KiB) Viewed 2686 times

MTP_WE.jpg (26.61 KiB) Viewed 2686 times

Case 2: Nikon Coolpix L20 camera

Nothing happens/appears.

[admin]

OK, that makes it obvious: No support here for XP, sorry.