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Re: Move to recently used tab

Posted: 04 Jun 2009 17:55
by Reve_Etrange
Being able to switch between the two last active tabs is already a reaaaaal timesaver to me. I use it on a daily basis, TY for implementing it eventually.
I thought the days when I clicked hundreds tabs a day were over, but Chrome decided otherwise :evil:

Re: Move to recently used tab

Posted: 21 Jun 2009 23:54
by tedy
The mode "Recent used order" for Ctrl+Tab is not working as it should. I mean as in all other applications that use tabs, incl browsers, development tools etc. This has been a standard for years.
How's that in that mode I can only swith between the last two used tabs?! And no easy way to go to other tabs besides using the mouse for direct hit?
Don, I see this thread exists for years, but besides my other complaint about losing history items between tabs witches, this is odd to me.. this is a basic behavior - holding down Ctrl and keep tab'ing let you reach all other tabs. Telling the truth I don't use recent order too often in browsers, only in IDEs but if your current development tools (VB6?) don't let you cope with these basic functionalities then what about reconsidering tools.. I reaally don't think the very minimal performance hit in using newer tools will impact anyone in today's processors and system memory.
I keep my opinion this is a very good software with unseen for me functions so far, but if few basic standard things are not working well, it ruins everything.
In a thread for tab history, I see 2 years arguments why one should use per-tab-history. Come on, I can't imagine anythinig that uses global history in this field - every tab is like a Explorer window, shared histories can be nothing but nightmare. It is Ok now it has option for this but as I said there, it's not working.

I just hope I won't run into other such issues that I shouldn't even imagine could exist. Today I had twice a freeze-for-10-15-seconds situation after a simple clicking on a directory in the tree, not even in a Network location.
Maybe I needed more time to test the program, it has hundreds of well thought features, most of them work as we expect. Let just fix the basic.

Re: Move to recently used tab

Posted: 22 Jun 2009 08:08
by admin
Stop ranting and simply describe what you think should happen.

Re: Move to recently used tab

Posted: 22 Jun 2009 09:08
by tedy
I think people wrote about it several times.
It's not a critical issue for me anyway.
The "Recent used order" should behave like in other applications. We keep the order we access all tabs, so when I press Ctrl+Tab once and release, this is switching the last two tabs of course. If I hold down the Ctrl and keep pressing Tab more than once, I expect that other tabs are activated in the most recent used order. Just like Visual Studio for example. or any other recent IDE. There may be an option to display a on-screen list with tabs until the Ctrl is released finally.
Thanks.

Re: Move to recently used tab

Posted: 22 Jun 2009 12:39
by admin
tedy wrote:I think people wrote about it several times.
It's not a critical issue for me anyway.
The "Recent used order" should behave like in other applications. We keep the order we access all tabs, so when I press Ctrl+Tab once and release, this is switching the last two tabs of course. If I hold down the Ctrl and keep pressing Tab more than once, I expect that other tabs are activated in the most recent used order. Just like Visual Studio for example. or any other recent IDE. There may be an option to display a on-screen list with tabs until the Ctrl is released finally.
Thanks.
I totally agree. The behavior you see in XY today has been "democratically" wished by users of this forum around 2009-02-10 (no time now to find the thread) -- and I probably gave in too early. I will change the code toward the expected behavior, thanks.

Re: Move to recently used tab

Posted: 22 Jun 2009 13:54
by serendipity
admin wrote:
tedy wrote:I think people wrote about it several times.
It's not a critical issue for me anyway.
The "Recent used order" should behave like in other applications. We keep the order we access all tabs, so when I press Ctrl+Tab once and release, this is switching the last two tabs of course. If I hold down the Ctrl and keep pressing Tab more than once, I expect that other tabs are activated in the most recent used order. Just like Visual Studio for example. or any other recent IDE. There may be an option to display a on-screen list with tabs until the Ctrl is released finally.
Thanks.
I totally agree. The behavior you see in XY today has been "democratically" wished by users of this forum around 2009-02-10 (no time now to find the thread) -- and I probably gave in too early. I will change the code toward the expected behavior, thanks.
I've always wanted it the way Tedy has mentioned and I have posted about this before. I assumed there was no way to do it, but seems like there is hope.

Re: Move to recently used tab

Posted: 22 Jun 2009 14:28
by CrouZ
admin wrote:
tedy wrote:I think people wrote about it several times.
It's not a critical issue for me anyway.
The "Recent used order" should behave like in other applications. We keep the order we access all tabs, so when I press Ctrl+Tab once and release, this is switching the last two tabs of course. If I hold down the Ctrl and keep pressing Tab more than once, I expect that other tabs are activated in the most recent used order. Just like Visual Studio for example. or any other recent IDE. There may be an option to display a on-screen list with tabs until the Ctrl is released finally.
Thanks.
I totally agree. The behavior you see in XY today has been "democratically" wished by users of this forum around 2009-02-10 (no time now to find the thread) -- and I probably gave in too early. I will change the code toward the expected behavior, thanks.
Sweet! :P

Re: Move to recently used tab

Posted: 22 Jun 2009 16:33
by Pagat
admin wrote:I totally agree. The behavior you see in XY today has been "democratically" wished by users of this forum around 2009-02-10 (no time now to find the thread) -- and I probably gave in too early. I will change the code toward the expected behavior, thanks.
Hooray! That's also what i wished for on page 1 of this thread :D

Re: Move to recently used tab

Posted: 10 Aug 2009 11:11
by Reve_Etrange
If you manage to get the standard Ctrl+Tab behavior to work, that would be huge!

Re: Move to recently used tab

Posted: 10 Aug 2009 11:23
by admin
Reve_Etrange wrote:If you manage to get the standard Ctrl+Tab behavior to work, that would be huge!
Is this the standard Ctrl+Tab behavior?
The "Recent used order" should behave like in other applications. We keep the order we access all tabs, so when I press Ctrl+Tab once and release, this is switching the last two tabs of course. If I hold down the Ctrl and keep pressing Tab more than once, I expect that other tabs are activated in the most recent used order.

Re: Move to recently used tab

Posted: 10 Aug 2009 12:40
by CrouZ
This is how I expect it to work.

Say that you have some tabs A, B, C, ....

Use the following notion for the state: (<current>, <previous1>, <previous2>, ...).
e.g (A, B, C) means that A is the current tab, B is the most recently used tab and C is the next most recently used tab.

General case:

(A, ...) -> Ctrl+Tab*n -> (<previous_n>, A, (... except <previous_n>) )

Examples:

(A, B, C) -> Ctrl+Tab -> (B, A, C), i.e take out <previous1> = B from the list and put it first.
(A, B, C) -> Ctrl+Tab*2 -> (C, A, B), i.e take out <previous2> = C from the list and put it first.
(A, B, C, D, E, F) -> Ctrl+Tab*4 -> (E, A, B, C, D, F), i.e take out <previous4> = E from the list and put it first.

Re: Move to recently used tab

Posted: 10 Aug 2009 16:35
by serendipity
admin wrote:
Reve_Etrange wrote:If you manage to get the standard Ctrl+Tab behavior to work, that would be huge!
Is this the standard Ctrl+Tab behavior?
The "Recent used order" should behave like in other applications. We keep the order we access all tabs, so when I press Ctrl+Tab once and release, this is switching the last two tabs of course. If I hold down the Ctrl and keep pressing Tab more than once, I expect that other tabs are activated in the most recent used order.
Yes, I've mentioned this same thing before and have always wanted this behavior since September 2006.

Re: Move to recently used tab

Posted: 10 Aug 2009 20:40
by Pagat
serendipity wrote:Yes, I've mentioned this same thing before and have always wanted this behavior since September 2006.
+1

(although i chipped in only Nov. 2007 ;) )

Re: Move to recently used tab

Posted: 11 Aug 2009 09:01
by admin
Strangely I cannot find a single app on my computer that shows this behavior. Can anybody tell me how I can configure firefox to do it? Ctrl+Tab currently just selects the next tab to the right (resp. cycles tabs forward).

Re: Move to recently used tab

Posted: 11 Aug 2009 09:42
by CrouZ
admin wrote:Strangely I cannot find a single app on my computer that shows this behavior. Can anybody tell me how I can configure firefox to do it? Ctrl+Tab currently just selects the next tab to the right (resp. cycles tabs forward).
Most editors with tab support work like this too, e.g Visual Studio and Crimson Editor.

The default behaviour in firefox is crap and you'll need e.g the Tab Mix Plus addon to get MRU behaviour.
The setting is found in Tools -> Tab Mix Plus Options -> Events -> Tab features -> "Ctrl-Tab navigates tabs in the most recently used order" but I believe that it is set by default.