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Re: Custom Copy roadmap

Posted: 27 Jun 2011 10:57
by admin
:) Later... :)

Re: Custom Copy roadmap

Posted: 27 Jun 2011 11:00
by admin
grindax wrote:
grindax wrote:For me the progress dialog now pops up on a different monitor to where I run XYplorer
admin wrote:OK, this is solvable.
By any chance, did the solution to this give you any ideas for how the same might be done for the standard Properties dialog for files and folders? That discussion happened in a different thread but I'm hoping that the same solution can be applied there.

On my primary dual-monitor PC, when I right-click on a file and choose 'Properties', the dialog always pops up right at the bottom of the screen where I have XYplorer running, but unfortunately on another of my dual-monitor PCs, the Properties dialog always pops up as far away as possible on the other monitor which is pretty frustrating.
No chance. Windows controls the position.

Re: Custom Copy roadmap

Posted: 27 Jun 2011 11:02
by Stefan
"Custom Copy" log file

Q 1.)
is there really the need to repeat ever and ever the paths?
If both are long i get to much infos, and the paths are already in the header.
The only sense i see by using this as base for an batch file. But that can be done anyway with this log.

instead of
From: A:\read\here\an\very\long\path\
To: X:\read\here\an\another\very\long\path\

Over A:\read\here\an\very\long\path\file1.ext -> X:\read\here\an\another\very\long\path\file1.ext
Skip A:\read\here\an\very\long\path\file2.ext
New A:\read\here\an\very\long\path\file3.ext -> X:\read\here\an\another\very\long\path\file3.ext
maybe better like:
From: A:\read\here\an\very\long\path\
To: X:\read\here\an\another\very\long\path\

Over file1.ext
Skip file2.ext
New file3.ext
Ren file4.ext -> file4_001.ext
2.)
i also have here "introduced" an another label "ren" for "renamed" files,
so we can better parse that logs by extern tools or by an script.

Re: Custom Copy roadmap

Posted: 27 Jun 2011 11:11
by admin
Stefan wrote:"Custom Copy" log file

Q 1.)
is there really the need to repeat ever and ever the paths?
If both are long i get to much infos, and the paths are already in the header.
The only sense i see by using this as base for an batch file. But that can be done anyway with this log.

instead of
From: A:\read\here\an\very\long\path\
To: X:\read\here\an\another\very\long\path\

Over A:\read\here\an\very\long\path\file1.ext -> X:\read\here\an\another\very\long\path\file1.ext
Skip A:\read\here\an\very\long\path\file2.ext
New A:\read\here\an\very\long\path\file3.ext -> X:\read\here\an\another\very\long\path\file3.ext
maybe better like:
From: A:\read\here\an\very\long\path\
To: X:\read\here\an\another\very\long\path\

Over file1.ext
Skip file2.ext
New file3.ext
Ren file4.ext -> file4_001.ext
2.)
i also have here "introduced" an another label "ren" for "renamed" files,
so we can better parse that logs by extern tools or by an script.
I think stating the full paths makes it easier for automatic processing and also for human copy and paste.

"Ren": even if the copy got a new name, the essential part here is New as opposed to Overwrite I think. If I'd introduce Ren as another category, then I'd have to this in many places, where it would often be an overkill (e.g. filtered reports, or statusbar). I want to keep this down to the essential.

Re: Custom Copy roadmap

Posted: 27 Jun 2011 11:32
by Stefan
Posted: 27 Jun 2011 11:11
? :lol:

admin wrote:
Stefan wrote:"Custom Copy" log file

"Ren":
If I'd introduce Ren as another category, then I'd have to this in many places,
Other idea:
How about an delimiter like " >> " instead of " -> " for renamed files?
Just for the parsing issue (don't know if i really will use this, but i know all scenarios are possible some times, so just an idea)

Re: Custom Copy roadmap

Posted: 27 Jun 2011 12:04
by admin
Stefan wrote:Posted: 27 Jun 2011 11:11
? :lol:

admin wrote:
Stefan wrote:"Custom Copy" log file

"Ren":
If I'd introduce Ren as another category, then I'd have to this in many places,
Other idea:
How about an delimiter like " >> " instead of " -> " for renamed files?
Just for the parsing issue (don't know if i really will use this, but i know all scenarios are possible some times, so just an idea)
I will wait with such complications until a real need for them can be shown. :)

Re: Custom Copy roadmap

Posted: 27 Jun 2011 15:03
by highend
Trying to copy a file to e.g. "C:\Program Files (x86)" without custom copy enabled forces windows to ask what you want to do:

"Zugriff auf den Zielordner wurde verweigert"
Sie müssen Administrationsberechtigungen angeben, um in diesen Ordner zu kopieren.

"Fortsetzen" "Überspringen" "Abbrechen".

In this case someone is able to say "Fortsetzen" that autoelevates the copy process and allows him to write into this folder.

With custom copy enabled the copy process will automatically fail.

Can you add an option to autoelevate custom copy when it tries to write to such a folder (with special permissions) and / or an option in the progress dialog that enables the user to do it manually?

Re: Custom Copy roadmap

Posted: 27 Jun 2011 15:29
by highend
Custom copy: suffix increment to copy?

The normal behavior of the windows explorer is to append:
1. copy: " - Kopie"
2. copy: " - Kopie (2)"
x. copy: " - Kopie (x)"

when you copy a file to the same destination as the original file.

If custom copy is enabled, this changes to
"-01"
"-02"
"-x"

"Der Mensch ist ein Gewohnheitstier..."

Maybe you can an option to let the user define how this extension to the copied file should look like?

Re: Custom Copy roadmap

Posted: 27 Jun 2011 15:37
by Marco
When will Custom Copy be able to pause a file operation during its progress? I don't mean the queue but the very file writing operation.

Re: Custom Copy roadmap

Posted: 27 Jun 2011 15:52
by admin
Marco wrote:When will Custom Copy be able to pause a file operation during its progress? I don't mean the queue but the very file writing operation.
I actually made some experiments with this because it should work in theory (MS documentation), but it did not. Probably my fault, but I decided to postpone this.

Welcome, and why are you interested in pausing when half of a file is copied?

Don

Re: Custom Copy roadmap

Posted: 27 Jun 2011 15:53
by admin
highend wrote:Trying to copy a file to e.g. "C:\Program Files (x86)" without custom copy enabled forces windows to ask what you want to do:

"Zugriff auf den Zielordner wurde verweigert"
Sie müssen Administrationsberechtigungen angeben, um in diesen Ordner zu kopieren.

"Fortsetzen" "Überspringen" "Abbrechen".

In this case someone is able to say "Fortsetzen" that autoelevates the copy process and allows him to write into this folder.

With custom copy enabled the copy process will automatically fail.

Can you add an option to autoelevate custom copy when it tries to write to such a folder (with special permissions) and / or an option in the progress dialog that enables the user to do it manually?
Good point, but I currently don't know how this can be done. Maybe later...

Re: Custom Copy roadmap

Posted: 27 Jun 2011 16:10
by Marco
admin wrote:
Marco wrote:When will Custom Copy be able to pause a file operation during its progress? I don't mean the queue but the very file writing operation.
I actually made some experiments with this because it should work in theory (MS documentation), but it did not. Probably my fault, but I decided to postpone this.

Welcome, and why are you interested in pausing when half of a file is copied?

Don
Thank you for the welcome Don the Admin! :D
My interest in pausing and resuming is due to the fact that disk operation all in all prevent programs from loading (in acceptable times). E. g.: I can browse with Firefox and meanwhile start XYplorer and some heavy file transfer with no problems, but not the reverse: if I start XYplorer, some file transfers with it and then, meanwhile, decide to launch Firefox, then the whole system slows alot, because of the HD heads trying to read the files to be copied and the Firefox files at the same time. Sure, NCQ, RAIDs and SSD help a lot, but being able to pause a file transfer for some seconds is a good solution too, in my opinion.

Re: Custom Copy roadmap

Posted: 27 Jun 2011 17:35
by admin
Marco wrote:
admin wrote:
Marco wrote:When will Custom Copy be able to pause a file operation during its progress? I don't mean the queue but the very file writing operation.
I actually made some experiments with this because it should work in theory (MS documentation), but it did not. Probably my fault, but I decided to postpone this.

Welcome, and why are you interested in pausing when half of a file is copied?

Don
Thank you for the welcome Don the Admin! :D
My interest in pausing and resuming is due to the fact that disk operation all in all prevent programs from loading (in acceptable times). E. g.: I can browse with Firefox and meanwhile start XYplorer and some heavy file transfer with no problems, but not the reverse: if I start XYplorer, some file transfers with it and then, meanwhile, decide to launch Firefox, then the whole system slows alot, because of the HD heads trying to read the files to be copied and the Firefox files at the same time. Sure, NCQ, RAIDs and SSD help a lot, but being able to pause a file transfer for some seconds is a good solution too, in my opinion.
I see. Well, it's on my list anyway.

Re: Custom Copy roadmap

Posted: 27 Jun 2011 18:02
by admin
highend wrote:Custom copy: suffix increment to copy?

The normal behavior of the windows explorer is to append:
1. copy: " - Kopie"
2. copy: " - Kopie (2)"
x. copy: " - Kopie (x)"
You can achieve almost the same by setting the incremental suffix template to " - Kopie (1)":
- Kopie (1).ini
- Kopie (2).ini
- Kopie (3).ini
...

Re: Custom Copy roadmap

Posted: 30 Jun 2011 12:57
by Stefan
1.) Idea: (already on your list i guess, but i don't want to miss mention it)
Add an option to remove archive attribute flag from copied files


2.) Just FYI, i was wondering because:

I have this settings:

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[X] Create log file
  [ ] Log to default location
If i cancel the "Save Custom Copy Log As"-Dialog
the whole copy is canceled also.
But i only wanted to cancel the creation of the log file for this case, not the copy action.

For the next copy maybe i want to use an log again, and then again i just want to copy an single file without an log.
So i think the cancel button of that save as... -dialog should not act as an copy-canceling trigger.


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