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Right now I'm working on dragging (copy/move) a tab from one pane ot the other. I don't have any (other) dual pane apps so I'm not sure what's the expected behavior here.

1. should the dropped tab be auto-selected (= foreground)?
2. should you see a insertion marker (like you now have when dragging a tab within the same pane) that allows you to drag the tab to a certain position?
3. Default action would be COPY, but hold SHIFT to MOVE the tab -- is that ok?
4. Should any selections in the list be retained?

The worst case would be foreground + move, because that would trigger 2 browse events, one in each pane. No problem generally, of course, but compared to background + copy, you will get a hot hard disk... I have no idea what the average inter-pane-dragger expects... you tell me.

admin wrote:Right now I'm working on dragging (copy/move) a tab from one pane ot the other. I don't have any (other) dual pane apps so I'm not sure what's the expected behavior here.

1. should the dropped tab be auto-selected (= foreground)?
2. should you see a insertion marker (like you now have when dragging a tab within the same pane) that allows you to drag the tab to a certain position?
3. Default action would be COPY, but hold SHIFT to MOVE the tab -- is that ok?
4. Should any selections in the list be retained?

The worst case would be foreground + move, because that would trigger 2 browse events, one in each pane. No problem generally, of course, but compared to background + copy, you will get a hot hard disk... I have no idea what the average inter-pane-dragger expects... you tell me.

Not a DP user myself, but my answers would be:
1. I'd say no, but then while currently dragging a tab from within the same pane it first gets auto-selected. So logical answer would be yes, consistency. Although maybe you should change that behavior as well, so that one can drag&drop a Tab (within the same pane or to the other) without activating/selecting it first -- thus saving a browse operation. Then, moving (or copying) a tab could always be done without one single browse operation, whether or not the tab changes pane.
(Of course, moving the current/active tab to another pane would mean more work, but that is to be expected obviously.)

2. Definitely yes.

3. I'd say the default should be move, same as when it's within the same pane. I know when it comes to the filesystem there's a "same-drive is move else copy" rule, but I feel it doesn't apply to tabs/panes. (Of course, I'm no DP-user so I might be wrong on that one.)

4. Definitely yes. (especially when moving a tab)

From my experience I'd expect:
1) It should be auto-selected.
2) Of course there should be an insertion marker.
3) The default action should be move.
4) Ideally everything should be retained in the new tab.

TheQwerty wrote:From my experience I'd expect:
1) It should be auto-selected.
2) Of course there should be an insertion marker.
3) The default action should be move.
4) Ideally everything should be retained in the new tab.

I agree completely with TheQwerty.

Thanks!

andy

1. Yes (should the dropped tab be auto-selected (= foreground)?)
2. Yes (should you see a insertion marker)
3. No (Default action would be COPY, but hold SHIFT to MOVE the tab -- is that ok?) Default action should be move but hold Shift to see an [+] to copy
4. I don't care since this are two actions i never would do at once. But to be comfortable i vote for Yes (Should any selections in the list be retained?)


EDIT:
Changed color for better reading.

Stefan wrote:3. Default action should be move but hold Shift to see an [+] to copy

Typo there or something, should be holding Ctrl to make a copy, as this is the (Windows) standard.

jacky wrote:

Stefan wrote:3. Default action should be move but hold Shift to see an [+] to copy

Typo there or something, should be holding Ctrl to make a copy, as this is the (Windows) standard.

Yes you're right

Should the target pane be auto-activated?

From my workflow i tend to say: no! Perhaps i will do another copy or move, so source pane is where i'm working and target pane only the next step.

admin wrote:Should the target pane be auto-activated?

Isn't that implicate by

Stefan wrote:1. Yes (should the dropped tab be auto-selected (= foreground)?)

So i think: yes.

Because:
If i drop an tab to the other pane it should in foreground and active.
If i want do another thing on the first pane i can click anyway in it (or use TAB) and activate it that way.

But all depends on the current workflow and because this change from time to time
or people have different behaviours it's no matter how you implement this... smt it fits, smt not

Now that copy/move tab is possible by dragging, should there also be the respective commands in menu Panes? What does Joe the DP-nik expect?

admin wrote:Now that copy/move tab is possible by dragging, should there also be the respective commands in menu Panes?

I think there is no menu item to copy/move an tab needed.
Maybe an shortcut like Strg+Arrow left/right f.ex.... or an script command?

Stefan wrote:

admin wrote:Now that copy/move tab is possible by dragging, should there also be the respective commands in menu Panes?

I think there is no menu item to copy/move an tab needed.
Maybe an shortcut like Strg+Arrow left/right f.ex.... or an script command?

I think I'd agree. There needs to be a command, but it may not need be on the main menu.

Perhaps Toolbar buttons as well?

TheQwerty wrote:

Stefan wrote:

admin wrote:Now that copy/move tab is possible by dragging, should there also be the respective commands in menu Panes?

I think there is no menu item to copy/move an tab needed.
Maybe an shortcut like Strg+Arrow left/right f.ex.... or an script command?

I think I'd agree. There needs to be a command, but it may not need be on the main menu.

Perhaps Toolbar buttons as well?

The big advantage of a main menu command is that it's self-advertising (and talks about its KS as well). Without a menu command a large percentage of users will never find out that such functionality exists.

Other DP apps don't have such stuff in the menu?

admin wrote:Other DP apps don't have such stuff in the menu?

TC has an "Copy tab to other panel" in tabs context menu.