autonext

[jacky]

Mute might be good indeed.

Regarding previous/next, it could even be added as an "independant" feature, I mean not related to Preview. Just having commands & shortcuts, which could of course also have buttons on the preview tab here, to move focus to the previous/next file in selection (Of course, no/single selection means prev/next on List).

It could also be useful when preview pictures, to move only through a selection of files not all of them! Hell, you could also add this to FullScreen mode, so one could select a bunch of pictures, and then go through them without leaving FS mode!

(While on FS mode, I'm pretty sure I already mentionned that having MDBU available there could be cool aswell....)

[admin]

Regarding previous/next, it could even be added as an "independant" feature, I mean not related to Preview. Just having commands & shortcuts, which could of course also have buttons on the preview tab here, to move focus to the previous/next file in selection (Of course, no/single selection means prev/next on List).

Yes, I thought of this as well. Staying within the 4 preview tribes (images, audio/video, fonts, web/office), or even within the narrow same-extension-tribe. Let's revive this thought a bit later...

It could also be useful when preview pictures, to move only through a selection of files not all of them! Hell, you could also add this to FullScreen mode, so one could select a bunch of pictures, and then go through them without leaving FS mode!

I could do that in a second. Does everybody agree to add this?

[admin]

My idea for this would be to add a new playback option, along with "play once", "play again" and "play next" have a "play next and loop" ?

Yes, I had the same idea, eben with exactly the same wording!

[j_c_hallgren]

It could also be useful when preview pictures, to move only through a selection of files not all of them! Hell, you could also add this to FullScreen mode, so one could select a bunch of pictures, and then go through them without leaving FS mode!

I could do that in a second. Does everybody agree to add this?

I'll agree conditionally for now! Because I'd like some clue on how it might be implemented before I say 100% yes...main question is:

How would you plan to distinguish between limiting movement to selected and existing scheme where limits are the folder? One thought that comes to mind would be: Use the arrow up/down for one mode and the Page up/down for the other, so you could either 'stop' at selected limits or not, without having to set some toggle or whatever...
Personally, I would use selected limits less often, so I'd make that the 'Page' one, if this were the way it'd be handled.

(While on FS mode, I'm pretty sure I already mentionned that having MDBU available there could be cool aswell....)

MDBU while in FS mode? Huh? Explain a bit more...I don't follow...sorry.

[admin]

How would you plan to distinguish between limiting movement to selected and existing scheme where limits are the folder?

Same as with Play Next: if more than 1 is selected then preview only selected.

[admin]

Hi,

First of all, i love the new autonext feauture, so much thanks for putting that in! ;-).

What i missed the most was to autoplay only selected files, what is programmed in the latest beta, and works good, great again! ;-)

Now something else:

If the preview tab is activated, and you select other files with ctrl, then it starts playing the latest selected file, is there a way to select multiple files while the first selected file keeps playing (afcourse, when it's at the end of the file, preview the following selected file)?

Edit: Also, when you first select multiple files with your mouse, then the files are not previewed, going back to the properties tab and then to the preview tab doesn't activate preview either, any way to activate the preview on previously selected files? this would also be great toghether with the selection filter, for example you can select all files with the name of your favourite music group with the selection filter, and with the autplay next option only your favourite group songs will play...

and some other tips for preview (yes i know it's not a media player, but it comes in handy for deleting unwanted media files also), and actually, i even begin to prefer xyplorer as media player with the autonext feauture :p)

3 buttons maybe under the sound bar:
- a mute sound button
and now, with the autonext function:
- a previous button (just a < sign to click on is ok, it doesn't have to be a graphical button) -> this is to go faster trough the media files
- a next button (just a > sign to click on is ok, it doesn't have to be a graphical button)

Buttons is okay, but later...
Generally: let's keep the media player stuff simple...

[j_c_hallgren]

Same as with Play Next: if more than 1 is selected then preview only selected.

Ok...seems workable...however, in that condition, I'd have the msg "No more" say "No more selected" or "No more in subset" or similar as reminder that I'm working with a subset when I hit limits.

Addendum: Any comments on my right-click on Vol to do mute idea? Might be a quicker way to implement than a button...yet still workable..

[admin]

Addendum: Any comments on my right-click on Vol to do mute idea? Might be a quicker way to implement than a button...yet still workable..

Yes, mute should be there. Later...

[surrender]

I like the idea for auto previewing pics, something like a slideshow you mean right? wow.. i can dump powerpoint and make slides this way.

Also, JCs idea of right clicking for mute is good and straightforward.

[itsme28m]

The latest beta is even better ;-). it's almost perfect except for one thing that i already mentioned: if you select multiple files without clicking on a file name (so when you make a multi-selection with the mouse), then there is no preview yet, wich is a good thing, but there is still no way that i know to activate the preview of the selected files. It's a little better i gues then first beta with auto next, but also when i now do a shift space, then the selection gets changed depended on the focused item. Well, after a little more testing, i find that the ctrl-space works best for now, because then only the focused item will get selected to and the selection will not get changed in another way. Afcourse, for selecting files it's good that the ctrl and shift space are there, and the focused item has its advantages to, so, my question here is, is it possible to maybe add another shortcut key to ONLY start the preview when you selected multiple files, without changing anything to the selection or the focused item, ctrl-shift space maybe?

- for the mute function: the right click on the volume bar is a good idea, but only if you have to click one time with the right button on it, it's not a good idea if there pop ups a menu and you have to click again on mute. Because, mostly, you mute a sound file just temporarily and then undo the mute, if you have to right click and then click on mute in a right-click menu then you have to click 4 times, with a simple button, you have to click 2 times to mute and undo the mute.

When it's possible to only activate the preview of multiple selected files, then the next preview function is also possible with the selection filter, and this would be great ;-).

Edit:
+ Media Preview: now, when previewing audio/video files in "Play
Next" mode using the Space key will not change any selections but
just pause/restart the preview.

This is the good way when preview mode is already previewing the file(s), maybe it is also possible to just use the space key to activate the preview, if the preview is not busy yet (like when multiple files are selected without selecting a file by clicking on the filename, but selecting multiple files starting from outside the actual filename). However, if this means that there must be broken something in the current file selection possibilities, then maybe a new shortcut key is needed for this.

Greetings,

Steve

[j_c_hallgren]

- for the mute function: the right click on the volume bar is a good idea, but only if you have to click one time with the right button on it, it's not a good idea if there pop ups a menu and you have to click again on mute.

That's what I implied...a right-click would toggle mute on and off...plain, simple, effective..even for me, who doesn't use right-click much!

Update: Found that when I do a multi-select via mouse and then use space, it clears the selection and then selects first file in list, but the second time when I do so in that same folder, it begins playing the selection...so something unusual about that first time...possible bug? (This happens on first time into a given folder)

[surrender]

One clarification:

If there is only one file I want to preview and if i have playnext and loop ON, then I expected that one file to play again and again. or??

[j_c_hallgren]

One clarification:

If there is only one file I want to preview and if i have playnext and loop ON, then I expected that one file to play again and again. or??

The loop ON simply controls whether to restart from top of list or selected when last item or selected has been played...Play next will stop and hold on last one...Play again will repeat current single selection only.

BTW, I think we've just about conquered the issue of autoplay, at least for me! It appears that I now have the options I need to control playing in the manner I desire...

[jacky]

(While on FS mode, I'm pretty sure I already mentionned that having MDBU available there could be cool aswell....)

MDBU while in FS mode? Huh? Explain a bit more...I don't follow...sorry.

Well, on FS mode if a picture is larger than your screen it is shrunk down to fit FS, so having MDBU works on FS mode aswell would allow one to "zoom" to original size without having to leave FS mode. (that is, of course, assuming you do not have the "shrink to fit on MDBU" option enabled, or else it wouldn't do anything.

if you select multiple files without clicking on a file name (so when you make a multi-selection with the mouse), then there is no preview yet, wich is a good thing, but there is still no way that i know to activate the preview of the selected files.

Yes, that is because the focus item is not part of the selection, which is required to get a file previewed.
I don't think there's a key to automatically get there, but you can hold Ctrl and use the Up/Down keys to move the focus around, then just give it to a selected file and you're ready to go. Obviously, Ctrl+Up/Down does not affect any selection, only focus.
Allthoug I agree, maybe Space could move focus to the first item in selection & start playing...

If there is only one file I want to preview and if i have playnext and loop ON, then I expected that one file to play again and again. or??

Nope. If only one file is selected with "Play Next & Loop" it will be played, then focus&selection will be moved to the next file in List (and if you have autoplay, it'll start playing and then move on to the next file, etc and loop back from start when last file is reached)

Play Next (& Loop) does always move to the next file, whether it's within a selection if more than one file are selected, or within List if only one is.

[jacky]

Update: Found that when I do a multi-select via mouse and then use space, it clears the selection and then selects first file in list, but the second time when I do so in that same folder, it begins playing the selection...so something unusual about that first time...possible bug? (This happens on first time into a given folder)

Yes, that's what itsme28m is talking about. That because when you do a multi-selection that way files are being selected but the focus is not changed, so you have the focus on a non-selected file (most likely at first, focus is on the first file in List).
Because of this, Space does not act the same way as when the focus is on a file of the selection. Same goes for Shift+Space which does not work as intended in such a case.

I think we might call this a bug, and when the focus is on an "outsider" of the selection, XY should first move focus to the first selected file, then do as now.