OT: Win 8.1

Post by **admin** » 30 Jan 2014 16:02

Marco wrote:
admin wrote:Acronis was perfect for me. No thinking necessary (I have no time for this ), just pressed a button and 2.5 hours later I got a perfect bootable clone.
With IFD it takes 15 minutes tops to image (encrypted) a 20GB drive

20?! I'm talking about a 500GB drive that's about half full.

Marco · Post by **Marco** » 30 Jan 2014 16:03

admin wrote:20?! I'm talking about a 500GB drive that's about half full.

System drive? With 250GB of software??

Post by **admin** » 30 Jan 2014 16:05

Filehero wrote:
admin wrote:Acronis was perfect for me. No thinking necessary (I have no time for this ), just pressed a button and 2.5 hours later I got a perfect bootable clone.
2013 Home works flawlessly* (disk as well as file/folders). With my SSD (Jehova!) a full system clone (40 GB) including verification takes < 30 min.

*: Now, even after restoring the clone Acronis still has that version in its backup history.

Cheers,
Filehero

Good to know. Now I have Acronis True Image 10 (!) Home... and it wasn't a lifetime license IIRC. Will it handle a Win8.1 system?

Post by **highend** » 30 Jan 2014 16:05

I don't even know where to begin...

I personally like software that I only have to pay once (like e.g. the XY lifetime license). Upgrade fees for Acronis products...
I can use Terabytes product on my server systems without any additional costs at all. If you ever want to use it on a server you have to buy a completely different Acronis product (for a few hundred bucks).

Support: It's a looong time that I tried to get it from Acronis (> 5 years). They failed miserably on providing it. Don't know if they're doing better today.
I had a support request a year ago at Terabyte (it was about a delay while executing the shutdown for restoring the backup). It wasn't something generic but a specific problem under a specific hardware constellation. A developer contacted my the next day (by e-mail) to ask a few more things and in the following three we discussed about the best solution to fix it once and for all. I got three compiled .exe files during that time to make sure that the slowdown is fixed effectively. They were so nice to include a feature request that I mentioned spontaneously on the first day).

I know in most cases you better don't need any support at all but I've never spend some money better that for their software. I use it for about 4-5 years now on a daily basis on several pcs and it never failed once.

Apart from it's scripting and customizing capabilities (regardless if you want to restore from a cd, a self booting dvd with the last image on it or the possibility to restore from the boot menu and a rescue partition, everything is possible.

I don't want to say that Acronis is missing these features, but for me it depends how I can use them to their fullest.

Apart from that, I hate software monsters and seriously, >250 MB for an image / backup restore software installer? Terabyte's is 20Mb large

Nevermind, everbody should use what he's paying for or what's working for him. I only wanted to make a suggestion...

Post by **admin** » 30 Jan 2014 16:08

Marco wrote:
admin wrote:20?! I'm talking about a 500GB drive that's about half full.
System drive? With 250GB of software??

Well, I should have said "disk", with 4 logical drives. I need a complete duplicated object (with ALL my data) that I can carry to another part of town (across the Rhine river actually).

Post by **highend** » 30 Jan 2014 16:12

40GB in 30 minutes. Are you guys kidding?

My 15GB system image takes 45 seconds to backup / restore. Sure, from SSD to SSD but even with two harddrive (>100MB/sec) it didn't take longer than 2 and a half minute. Multiply it with 3 to get to 45 GB it shouldn't take you longer that at max 10 minutes (with decent hardware).

Marco · Post by **Marco** » 30 Jan 2014 16:14

highend wrote:40GB in 30 minutes. Are you guys kidding?

My 15GB system image takes 45 seconds to backup / restore. Sure, from SSD to SSD but even with two harddrive (>100MB/sec) it didn't take longer than 2 and a half minute. Multiply it with 3 to get to 45 GB it shouldn't take you longer that at max 10 minutes (with decent hardware).

I'm a derelict, I know

Post by **admin** » 30 Jan 2014 16:17

admin wrote:
Filehero wrote:
admin wrote:Acronis was perfect for me. No thinking necessary (I have no time for this ), just pressed a button and 2.5 hours later I got a perfect bootable clone.
2013 Home works flawlessly* (disk as well as file/folders). With my SSD (Jehova!) a full system clone (40 GB) including verification takes < 30 min.

*: Now, even after restoring the clone Acronis still has that version in its backup history.

Cheers,
Filehero
Good to know. Now I have Acronis True Image 10 (!) Home... and it wasn't a lifetime license IIRC. Will it handle a Win8.1 system?

The answer is complete and perfect NO:
http://kb.acronis.com/de/content/37426

But something tells me that Win8 itself should be able to do the job. I mean it could even read my mind when I needed to program the mouse wheel...

40k · Post by **40k** » 30 Jan 2014 16:49

Well looks like I got here just in time

http://clonezilla.org/

Clonezilla boots a minimal unix environment and uses dd to clone your hard disks.
Stop paying for this kind of software.

klownboy · Post by **klownboy** » 30 Jan 2014 16:53

Yes, you can "Create a system (disk) image" in Windows 8. Use the Windows 7 Recovery tool (yes, that Windows 7) provided in Windows 8/8.1. Take a look at this article / instruction. http://howto.cnet.com/8301-11310_39-576 ... windows-8/. I've used it before successfully but I'm using Terabyte's Image for DOS now.

Marco · Post by **Marco** » 30 Jan 2014 17:44

Don, if this is a one-time job then you can use HDClone

Filehero · Post by **Filehero** » 30 Jan 2014 19:58

highend wrote:40GB in 30 minutes. Are you guys kidding?

Partly, I was at work and just made a safe estimate.

Now I have accessed the timestamps from a full backup's log:
Backup time: 4.01 minutes (size source partition: 43GB, compressed size backup: 16.03GB)
Validation time: 3.19 minutes

These values in general appear not bad to me, given that I configured the jobs to run at medium cpu load with a compression factor around 3.

I'm sure there are much better tools out there. But I'm using Acronis afair since 2007 (skipping some releases) and it never failed for me.

But Acronis is just one part of my approach:
- the core part of my 'data' (w/o photographs) get additionally zip-backuped once per week
- those data along with my photographs, ripped music etc. additionally get versioned every 2nd hour using FileHistory (into a 80GB target space).

Cheers,
Filehero

/e: typo

Post by **admin** » 30 Jan 2014 20:06

Thanks for the tips! I finally decided to upgrade my Acronis license. Acronis never failed on me and that's a good reason to stick with a backup software.

Filehero · Post by **Filehero** » 30 Jan 2014 20:13

admin wrote:Acronis never failed on me and that's a good reason to stick with a backup software.

And my thanks to you for
- reminding me it's fail on ...
- mentioning what I've forgotten: that that's the reason to stick

Post by **admin** » 30 Jan 2014 20:32

Filehero wrote:- those data along with my photographs, ripped music etc. additionally get versioned every 2nd hour using FileHistory (into a 80GB target space).

How/Where do I configure 8.1 to do this?

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