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Re: Dual Pane - Formal Proposal Thread
Posted: 05 Jun 2009 16:12
by Demset
admin wrote:
Well, I've done what I can but cannot find any problem. With AR on it works alright over here.
I don't know what's different with how you're trying this, but I have the same problem. And it's not intermittent - it happens every time.
Re: Dual Pane - Formal Proposal Thread
Posted: 06 Jun 2009 15:16
by admin
Demset wrote:admin wrote:
Well, I've done what I can but cannot find any problem. With AR on it works alright over here.
I don't know what's different with how you're trying this, but I have the same problem. And it's not intermittent - it happens every time.
I tried it again in all possible ways using WinRAR (3.00). Again, it works perfectly.

Re: Dual Pane - Formal Proposal Thread
Posted: 06 Jun 2009 16:36
by Muroph
admin wrote:I tried it again in all possible ways using WinRAR (3.00). Again, it works perfectly.

if possible, try with a later version, like 3.80.
Re: Dual Pane - Formal Proposal Thread
Posted: 06 Jun 2009 19:56
by admin
Muroph wrote:admin wrote:I tried it again in all possible ways using WinRAR (3.00). Again, it works perfectly.

if possible, try with a later version, like 3.80.
OK, I tried it with 3.80, every possible combination. Indeed I found a way to right-drag (using Shell drag'n'drop menu) an archive with folders onto a non-current tree node in MiniTree and the created folders did not show up. I fixed that. Now from my POV it's 100% perfect.
Re: Dual Pane - Formal Proposal Thread
Posted: 06 Jun 2009 21:02
by Mesh
admin wrote:
OK, I tried it with 3.80, every possible combination. Indeed I found a way to right-drag (using Shell drag'n'drop menu) an archive with folders onto a non-current tree node in MiniTree and the created folders did not show up. I fixed that. Now from my POV it's 100% perfect.
Sorry, but the problem is still there. Not only with WinRAR, but also with WinZip as well (I'm using 12.0.8252). Whenever an archive which contains subfolders is extracted to a folder, the tree does not reflect the new subfolders. Not even when you go to the destination parent directory itself - they appear in the List pane, but not on the Tree until you manually refresh the tree.
I'm boggled as to why you are not able to reproduce this.
Re: Dual Pane - Formal Proposal Thread
Posted: 06 Jun 2009 21:04
by Mesh
Don, thanks for adding the ability to copy pane settings from one pane to another. It's great!

Re: Dual Pane - Formal Proposal Thread
Posted: 06 Jun 2009 21:08
by admin
Mesh wrote:admin wrote:
OK, I tried it with 3.80, every possible combination. Indeed I found a way to right-drag (using Shell drag'n'drop menu) an archive with folders onto a non-current tree node in MiniTree and the created folders did not show up. I fixed that. Now from my POV it's 100% perfect.
Sorry, but the problem is still there. Not only with WinRAR, but also with WinZip as well (I'm using 12.0.8252). Whenever an archive which contains subfolders is extracted to a folder, the tree does not reflect the new subfolders. Not even when you go to the destination parent directory itself - they appear in the List pane, but not on the Tree until you manually refresh the tree.
I'm boggled as to why you are not able to reproduce this.
I guess it depends on the OS. The Windows notification system is known to be full of surprises... You can try the following; type
::logchange; into the address bar and press ENTER. Now you get a message box whenever a file system change is reported. So, do you get any message boxes after unzipping...?
Re: Dual Pane - Formal Proposal Thread
Posted: 06 Jun 2009 21:14
by Mesh
admin wrote:
I guess it depends on the OS. The Windows notification system is known to be full of surprises... You can try the following; type ::logchange; into the address bar and press ENTER. Now you get a message box whenever a file system change is reported. So, do you get any message boxes after unzipping...?
Yes, here is the message when using WinZip:
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Change Detected [2]: 31 (1F)
Exit1: path not listed in Pane 1
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I also tried it with WinRAR:
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Change Detected [2]: 23 (17)
Exit1: path not listed in Pane 1
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Re: Dual Pane - Formal Proposal Thread
Posted: 06 Jun 2009 21:17
by Demset
Mesh wrote:
Sorry, but the problem is still there. Not only with WinRAR, but also with WinZip as well (I'm using 12.0.8252). Whenever an archive which contains subfolders is extracted to a folder, the tree does not reflect the new subfolders. Not even when you go to the destination parent directory itself - they appear in the List pane, but not on the Tree until you manually refresh the tree.
Same here - the problem is still there. Using XY build 412.
Re: Dual Pane - Formal Proposal Thread
Posted: 06 Jun 2009 21:20
by admin
Mesh wrote:admin wrote:
I guess it depends on the OS. The Windows notification system is known to be full of surprises... You can try the following; type ::logchange; into the address bar and press ENTER. Now you get a message box whenever a file system change is reported. So, do you get any message boxes after unzipping...?
Yes, here is the message when using WinZip:
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Change Detected [2]: 31 (1F)
Exit1: path not listed in Pane 1
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I also tried it with WinRAR:
---------------------------------------
Change Detected [2]: 23 (17)
Exit1: path not listed in Pane 1
---------------------------------------
Thanks (I should have thought of this earlier!), this will help me on...
Re: Dual Pane - Formal Proposal Thread
Posted: 06 Jun 2009 21:25
by Mesh
admin wrote:
Thanks (I should have thought of this earlier!), this will help me on...
Glad to help! I know how frustrating it is not to be able to duplicate a bug. If you need me to test anything else, just holler.

Re: Dual Pane - Formal Proposal Thread
Posted: 06 Jun 2009 21:46
by Muroph
here's a feature request: global default tabs (i.e. a default tab shared by both panes).
or at least a way (preferably a mouse trick) to force a folder to open in the inactive pane.
also, add "Copy List Settings from Other Pane" to the context menu of the DP toolbar button.
Re: Dual Pane - Formal Proposal Thread
Posted: 08 Jun 2009 19:50
by Muroph
+ Tree: Alt+Click will open the folder in the inactive pane.
Shift+Alt+Click will open it in a new tab in the inactive pane.
focus doesn't shift to the inactive pane when using this.
in fact, it looks like
both panes are focused.

Re: Dual Pane - Formal Proposal Thread
Posted: 08 Jun 2009 20:52
by admin
Muroph wrote: + Tree: Alt+Click will open the folder in the inactive pane.
Shift+Alt+Click will open it in a new tab in the inactive pane.
focus doesn't shift to the inactive pane when using this.
in fact, it looks like
both panes are focused.

The second sentence describes a bug. (just fixed it, thanks!)
The first sentence describes a feature, resp. normal behavior: you cannot click the tree an have the focus shift somewhere else.
Re: Dual Pane - Formal Proposal Thread
Posted: 09 Jun 2009 14:54
by Mesh
Don, any chance the Type 31 message dealing with the Tree refresh issue has anything to do with the Type 31 message we are seeing with the 2 pane internal refresh issue?
I'm just curious.